Did some tuning

[Guero]

Well I finally got the WOT A/F straight. Well Kinda. WOT its at 11.9-12.06 its rich but that the straightest i've gotten it!!! Im waiting for Summit to have the SFI Balancer I ordered back on stock. Then Ill set it a little leaner. Im still at stock J4J1 timing. Which Im pretty excited cuz I've beaten pretty fast cars. Well 2 M3's a brand new one and 1 just before that year. So I cant wait to actually have a good a/f and add timing!!!!!

 

[final5-0]

Good for you Mr. G

There is more power even yet hiding in that little silver box
but
Before you start on your attempt to release it ..........

Be aware of these things

You got additional fuel being dumped into the mix at 90 mph in the j4j1 with
it's function of fuel enrichment

To be more safe ... Its good to be kinda low on spark when you start
leaning things back in your quest for more WOT power

Are you having any fun Yet

Grady

 

[Guero]

The fuel enrichment crap I took out, so it doesn't add none. What do you about keeping spark low??? You mean to keep spark low to set my a/f and then add spark???

 

[final5-0]

The fuel enrichment crap I took out, so it doesn't add none. What do you about keeping spark low??? You mean to keep spark low to set my a/f and then add spark???

Yes ... talking about WOT fuel ratio adjustments
and
Talking about running 93 grade gas for WOT af ratio dial in

I'd run around 28 maximum total advance while doing maf tweecs

after you got a nice & fat ... flat ... curve established ..........

*** I'd move up to around 12.50 to 1.00 and start to add in more spark
a couple at a time all the while listening for ping

You'll end up in a range of 32 to 38 for best wot spark
and
A range of 12.50 - 13.00 to 1.00 for best wot fuel

Of course you will have to experiment to see what your combo likes

If using your "seat of the pants" meter and "ear" ping indicator
along with datalogging on the street method ..........

Find out if you got ping anywhere while doing the *** thing from above
and
Since you got Aluminum heads, I don't think you'll hear ping

Now ... from this point on ... is where the experimenting takes place
and
It kinda goes like this

Say you heard no ping during the *** thing
back off the spark value 6 degrees

lean it out from 12.5 to 12.75 and listen for ping at that reduced spark value
then
go up with the spark 2 at a time to see if ping occurs at the leaner ratio

Can you see the method to the madness here

#1 objective is to ..........
Get your spark table setup for a match of wb display
which allows you to simply fill in the blank (top row of cells in fuel table)
for desired af ratio

as opposed to

Doing more tuning every time you wanna go leaner or fatter

When you did the *** procedure the first time
you accomplished
Finding a maximum spark value while still being safe ... or ... a bit fat

When you did the *** thing the second time
you were starting to sneak up on the fuel a little at a time
while
doing the same with the spark value

Basically ... You sneak up on the final values of fuel & spark a little bit
at a time when dialing in that last bit of WOT performance.

Hope that makes sense
and
If it don't

Ask to make sure
cause
This is where you wanna be sure about what your doing

Grady

 

[Guero]

I understood your first sentence then I was just reading words. So can you detect pinging with datalogging??? Im planning on Dyno tuning, I dont want a big fat ticket. You can se pinging on the dyno correct? If so I dont have to try to understand what you wrote corect?

 

[blksn955.o]

The datalog will not pick up ping...but on a dyno it should not be too hard to hear, since you dont have the whole "moving" thing you can focus to hear it. Also the dyno opp. should be able to let you know (make sure to talk with him so you can get out of it if he hears it before you).

 

[Guero]

Ok good. Grady is to smart for me. Seemed like alot of work for a dummy like me

Were Im gonna tune the guy knows Im a newbie and he is willing to help me out to get the most out of my car. At the charge of just the dyno time.

 

[final5-0]

I understood your first sentence then I was just reading words. So can you detect pinging with datalogging??? Im planning on Dyno tuning, I dont want a big fat ticket. You can se pinging on the dyno correct? If so I dont have to try to understand what you wrote corect?

If I understand it here ....

You got the first sentence
and
All the rest was just a bunch of words that had no meaning
and
You're hoping to find a work around to keep from having to understand
99% of that info

And here all the time
I thought I was pretty much laying it out step by step
so
You would not have to be dependent upon a dyno or someone else
to tune your car

I'm sorry I just did not understand your intentions

I mean ... You've asked all these Q's lately

Well ... I just mis-lead myself I guess

Grady

 

[Guero]

LOL!!! I understood some wat of it. You said to HEAR for pinging right???

 

[final5-0]

LOL!!! I understood some wat of it. You said to look for pinging right???

OK Mr. G

You are just one of those peeps in life

I can get somewhat confused by the things you say
but
I just wanna try and help you never the less
and
I somehow in a strange way ... Derive a bit of satisfaction by doing it
even though
You seem to always have me behind the 8 ball as they say

Mr. G

Don't leave our little family of 94-95 Stang Owners cause I would miss
these bizarre little interchanges we have from time to time

Just so you have no misunderstanding here
In my own way
I paid you a compliment in saying ..... You're not like most peeps

Now ... I'm gonna point out that it was only Y O U
that used the word LOOK when talking about ping

I used these words or phrases from above:

all the while listening for ping
and
"ear" ping indicator
and
Find out if you got ping
and
I don't think you'll hear ping
and
heard no ping
and
listen for ping

Now ... it is true I did say this ............

2 at a time to see if ping occurs at the leaner ratio

but ... that ain't lookin for ping

Come on now Mr. G

You shouldn't be a bustin my chops like this

Where else but on 94-95 :SNSign: can you have so much fun
and
Learn good stuff from so many unique, fascinating, and friendly folk

Grady

 

[Guero]

Um what are you talking Bout!!!

I know I'm not good at wording what I write, I suck at it!!! But I do try to make it clear but it never comes out the way Im thinking abut it....