DON'T BUY GAS ON MAY 19TH!!

[TRICKFastback]

As far as one refinery goes? That is BS. There are several in Wyoming alone. Conoco has a refinery in Cheyenne, WY, Sinclair has a refinery in Sinclair, WY, and so on, I could keep going. But that is beside the point.

If the government is after inflation then they are on the right track. Think about everything around you, how does it get to you? By transportation, freight, power, etc. Everything in the world is controlled by gas, there is not 1 thing on this planet that is not controlled by gas. From your pen you are using right now to right this forum address down. To the heat that is in your house, to the construction workers that makes our highways. Its all revolves around gas. Can you prove me wrong, no. Even hybrid cars revolve around gas how do you think they are made? Robotics? Interesting, they still take hydraulic fluid? What is hydraulic fluid made out of? Last I checked it was a oil. So it keep going and going and never stops. Mark my words, do a screen print of this document, and see if I’m wrong,( I hope I am wrong) but I will bet anything that by the end of the summer everything will have increased in price.

 

[ratio411]

The arguement over how many refinerys we have is not relevant.
The refinerys do nothing but make the raw product into the finished product. Sure we have several refinerys, sure we could use more, but the EPA and tree huggers won't allow it... but the price more directly comes from the cost of crude.
What we need is to do more drilling and exploration in our part of the world. The Alaskan artic is one place that holds great reserves that we know about. Tree huggers won't allow us to take advantage though... They get pictures of the arctic nature preserve on TV that show woods, mountains, wildlife, etc..., but what they don't want you to know is that the oil reserves are not located in that part of the preserve. The preserve is huge and encompasses wildlife rich areas as well as arctic desert. The desert part that is not inhabited is where the oil is, hundreds of miles from the nearest furry woodland creature. The creatures that would lose there life/land to 'evil' oil wells.
Dave

 

[mustangdave]

I think everybody has made some good points but you all missed one thing. We have spent billions of dollars and many lives in Iraq, an oil rich country. We should be taking their oil for free to compensate and none of us should be paying $2.00 a gallon to free and save people that want to kill us! There, that should stir things up a little.

 

[gp001]

I asked about th one refinery thing because I thought there was something I didn't know. For example, maybe everything had to go through 1 special process before going to other refineries. I didn't think it did, but I don't know everything so I asked.

Lets face it, OPEC is going to continue to screw us as long as we need oil, even if we drill for our own. At least when Saddam was around the Saudis needed us for protection.

 

[Nicks99GT]

The arguement over how many refinerys we have is not relevant.
The refinerys do nothing but make the raw product into the finished product. Sure we have several refinerys, sure we could use more, but the EPA and tree huggers won't allow it... but the price more directly comes from the cost of crude.
What we need is to do more drilling and exploration in our part of the world. The Alaskan artic is one place that holds great reserves that we know about. Tree huggers won't allow us to take advantage though... They get pictures of the arctic nature preserve on TV that show woods, mountains, wildlife, etc..., but what they don't want you to know is that the oil reserves are not located in that part of the preserve. The preserve is huge and encompasses wildlife rich areas as well as arctic desert. The desert part that is not inhabited is where the oil is, hundreds of miles from the nearest furry woodland creature. The creatures that would lose there life/land to 'evil' oil wells.
Dave

I wouldn't call refineries irrelevant. We can have all the oil in the world, but if the we can't refine it, prices will remain high. I beileve their is a 4 step process to making our nations energy supply cheap:

1. Start getting energy resources from our own continent. This includes poking holes in the ground in Alaska, Texas and Gulf of Mexico.

2. The government must encourage the building of refineries via tax incentives and land purchases.

3. Make one standard for gasoline that will be used nationwide, and get rid of "designer" gasoline

4. Spend R&D money to develop more efficient transportation. This would include research on synthetic fuels and hydrogen powered fuel cells.

Finally, think what would happen if Islamic extremists took over countries like Saudi Arabia (it could happen). We would be in a world of hurt. The way I look at it, a good national energy policy is an important part of this nation's security.

 

[splinterddt]

All the info is useful and entertaining at the same time. A couple days ago the local news did a piece on the 1 day boycott. They said even if everyone didn't buy gas for 1 day there wouldn't be enough of an impact to get prices to change. The U.S. would have to stop buying gas for about a week to make any change in oil consumption that would cause price changes. Due to the nations need for transpotation, this would never happen. If more refineries if what we need to lower gas prices, what are we waiting for? Personally, I've been driving my motorcycle to save, and been researching electric car conversions. There is not enough people who would band together to boycott anything.

 

[jikelly]

All the info is useful and entertaining at the same time. Personally, I've been driving my motorcycle to save, and been researching electric car conversions. There is not enough people who would band together to boycott anything.

We are thinking along the same lines except, I'm not getting on motorcycle. I remember how much it hurt when I fell off my bicycle, and how much skin came off on the asphalt.

 

[Route666]

We are thinking along the same lines except, I'm not getting on motorcycle. I remember how much it hurt when I fell off my bicycle, and how much skin came off on the asphalt.

How much leather were you wearing while riding your bicycle?

 

[Max Power]

LOL..this board averages about 8 miles per gallon!

We have seen the problem, and it is us!

And it was good.....

 

[Fomocohipo]

How much leather were you wearing while riding your bicycle?

How fast was he going on his bicycle? Motorcycles are a little faster

 

[D.Hearne]

PLEASE READ THIS AND PASS THE INFO ALONG:

WE ONLY HAVE ONE REFINERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not that we don't have enough oil, it's that we only have ONE refinery to convert the stuff to usable gasoline. It's been like this forever! The fact is that we can't convert it fast enough to meet the demand, hence the prices going through the roof. In the mid 90's there was actually talk of adding a $0.50 tax on all gasoline prices to go towards the building of a second refinery
-Tim

I can tell you've never been down south, here in Louisiana or Texas , your ignorance is also showing. There is FAR more than ONE refinery in the U.S. Helll in the little back water town of Krotz Springs La. there's one refinery. In the Houston Tx. area theres dozens of them. Ditto for the Mississippi river corridor from New Orleans to Baton Rouge La. You can't drive five minutes without seeing one. Yes there's plenty of oil, the problem has to do with the NIMBY syndrome. Everybody wants oil, but nobody wants an oil well in their backyard ( or off their beaches). California and Florida have got millions of barrels of oil just off their coasts, but it's off limits to drilling. Ditto for the north slope of ALaska. Yes there is also a shortage of refineries here in the US, but to say there's only one refinery, is sheer ignorance.

 

[Fostang]

We really showed them!

 

[SCORPION]

yeah...look at those plumeting gas prices

 

[zookeeper]

I gotta tell you, I was skeptical that not buying gas on the 19th would affect gas prices at all. But to my surprise, I abstained from filling the tank on the 19th and much to my surprise, when I went to the local station to fill 'er up this morning the prices had indeed changed! Went from $2.33 to $2.39...thanks guys...

 

[Route666]

How fast was he going on his bicycle? Motorcycles are a little faster

I've taken speedy falls on a pushy, probably around 20mph, on bitumen, and hadn't had that much skin come off, if I were wearing jeans, a leather jacket, a helmet, and some gloves, I'd take a road on at 40 or 50mph. Just because it's a motorcycle doesn't mean you have to ride it full throttle. They CAN be faster, but they're also bigger, and more stable at higher speeds than a pushy would be. Most can stop before you touch the brakes too. I know getting hit by a car would suck, but getting t-boned by a car while in a car isn't a tea-party either.

Anyways, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to ride a bike, especially in this day and age of bazillions of cars on the road and a$$hole attitudes. The only bike I'll probably ride is a HD, nice and slow, and if something hits it, it should bounce off lol.

 

[mustangdave]

Nobody wants to comment on my post about why we are not taking oil for free from Iraq!!!??? Wow, I thought that would bring out all kinds of sentimental crap about oil for food and such, ( by the way, everybody is under investigation for scamming money from that project). They owe us more than free oil:one American soldiers life should have filled our tanks for life.

 

[Fomocohipo]

Anyways, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to ride a bike, especially in this day and age of bazillions of cars on the road and a$$hole attitudes. The only bike I'll probably ride is a HD, nice and slow, and if something hits it, it should bounce off lol.

Yeah harleys rule! ( I work at a HD dealership ) But not all are slow, A co-worker has a turbo road glide. muahaha. some 160 hp

 

[Route666]

Yeah harleys rule! ( I work at a HD dealership ) But not all are slow, A co-worker has a turbo road glide. muahaha. some 160 hp

Oh yeh even stock ones aren't really "slow" in my mind. But they are no where near the stupidly high performance of sports bikes. Like V8s though, I want to make my Harley as torquey as possible.

I like the similarities HDs and rice bikes have with muscle cars and rice cars.

HD is steel, torquey, sounds good, deep rumbly, and they look classy too, with most likely a down-to-earth guy riding it for the experience.
Rice bike is plastic, light, sounds like crap (imo, although some larger cap. ones sound OK), has power, but not a torquey motor, looks like it is made for speed, and usually has a tool riding it, thinking he is superman.

One thing with the rice bikes though, they actually do perform, unlike most rice cars.

 

[Hack]

Well, I didn't fill up on the 19th, because I didn't need gas that day.

Oh the thing about taking oil?? We don't do that, because we want to be on the right side. The minute we do crap like that, we are no better than the scum in the UN, France and Germany who were scamming money from the oil for food program and didn't want it to end. Gee, why didn't those countries support us in the war effort?

Yeah there are lots of corrupt people here, but at least some of them get caught. One nice thing about a free society is that the government at least can't just blatantly take things.

 

[Jon350]

Whomever DIDN'T buy gas yesterday because they wanted to STICK IT to the man is a damn RETARD. If any of you DON'T know a little thing called OPEC you can be sure you are subject to the following: A.) Extreme ignorance B.)Aiding in the organization of extra fuel(which will be and probably has been gobbled up in mass quantity today "20th") C.) If you live in california you are simply cutting off funding of oil refinery's which are eliminating MTBE in our fuel. IE:U R->DUMBASS.
Pay attention. The cost of oil by the gallon is $1. With me so far? Tax on that is .40->.50 cents. Then the cost to manufacture oil to gas costs, not to mention refining gas now without MTBE costs much more in the way of refinery machinery and processes. Next there's containing the gas costs, loading the gas onto trucks and ships costs(shipping costs), and finally getting it to the consumer. This all adds up to a relative cost that measures equally to the USD inflation rate. (Higher living costs, higher pay rates go right along with the gas) Back in the early 90's the administration in office was poorly managed, as such they tempted with raising the gas rates to gain and extra buck for further funding of extraneous propositions.
PLEASE don't be stupid people, don't just listen to internet forum junkies. Research the life you lead and understand just how things are affected by your actions.