DON'T BUY GAS ON MAY 19TH!!!!

[88gt]

The U.S. has enough oil in reserves to last ~100 years...the bleeding hearts just want to keep buying foriegn oil for some jacknut reason!!!

What about alternative fuels???

My rangers can burn 85% ethanol...but it's not available in my hometown.

Jim

 

[66 Tiger]

What we need to do is drill for oil in ANWR (Alaska National Wildlife Refuge). Its northern Alaska where NO ONE lives. Damn environmentalist are afraid that we are going to destory the planet. Its in commitee on Capitol Hill. If it were just passed we could drill ANWR and not depend on foreign countries for our oil supply. Gas would be back down to 88 cents a gallon just like it was back 5 years ago.

Guy's.... johnt785 has the only effective sulution to this problem in his sights. By tapping into our own resources we don't have to depend on anyone else dictating our prices. OPEC could go screw itself for all we would care. Let them feed the over priced oil to their camels!

88gt has a point too. With the amount of oil that we have in reserve there is no reson we should be tolerating these price increases. What's up with that?

What I don't get is how one gas station in any particular city can charge 15 cents more a gallon, for the same gas that the station down the street is charging. Is the pricing up to the individual owner of the service station? If so, that's the guy we should not be buying gas from on the 19th. F@CK Him! He's doing it to us.

 

[87'GTstang]

I feel like I just called you all Chevy lovers or something. I never guessed I'd get such a negitive response! Great, if you all like paying top dollar for gas. Some of you all must have more $$$ than you need? Hey, i'd love to pay $3.50 gallon for 87, and sure, just keep the change, I've got lot's more where that came from. Oh Magooh. :damnit: The government DOES have control of fuel taxes, and that's where most of the money is going!

Just because your plan has a heck of a lot of work to even have an effect shouldn't be a reason to take it out on me. The government taxes everything, that's their job and that's what they do to get done what they have to. The U.S. government taxes an imported item - that's it. Do we make it, drill it, ship it? NO! We cannot dictate over an organization, OPEC, as to what they are going to do. They tell us how many barrels they are going to produce in a day, where they are going to ship it, and how much they are going to charge us for it. OPEC runs like a business and since it is not under U.S. control, or anyone else's control really for that matter, all we can really do is "negotiate" with them and hope for the best deal. So no, the only effect the government has is the tax they place on the imported oil which we import for OPEC's rate of whatever they want to charge. If gas was $1.50 and $0.50 of it was the tax, if it jumped to $2.50 a gallon but still remaind at $0.50 tax, who are YOU going to blame more, the goverment for their tax or OPEC's decision to raise their prices per barrel?

Townethug, I don't know where you get your facts from. Oil consumption is exponential and the number of vehicles out there on the road everyday drastically increases, by the day. Here are some of the products we refine into from the oil (petroleum) we import:
gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, motor oil, plastic, rubber, tires, soles of shoes, ink, paint, explosives, various lubricants, greases, waxes, asphalt, products produced with petroleum: fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, detergents, phonograph records, photographic film, furniture, packaging materials, surfboards, artificial fibers used in clothing, upholstery, and carpet backing, and the list goes on and on. So I ask you, do you really think that with exponential growth that it's going to last 500 more years considering it takes thousands to form it?

 

[Cue-Ball]

87GT seems to be about the only voice of reason in this thread. There is a finite amount of oil on this planet. Our consumption is increasing while our supply is decreasing. The law of supply and demand tells us that this will raise prices. The ANWR is not a solution either. The United States is right now completely dependant upon foreign oil. If we tap into the ANWR we will be partially independant, at least for a while. But then what happens when the middle east starts to run low? We'll have nothing left in reserve for our own needs. And i'm not talking about gasoline either. Virtually EVERYTHING we use in modern society requires oil to produce. Everything from clothing to computers. And those things which don't require oil to produce need it for shipping.

Those of you complaining that we're "getting raped" should get used to it. Gasoline is only going to continue to get more expensive, especially if the middle east doesn't stabilize soon.

Here's a good National Geographic article on this issue: http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0406/feature5/

Enjoy those Mustangs while you can, fellas.

 

[66 Tiger]

Those of you complaining that we're "getting raped" should get used to it. Gasoline is only going to continue to get more expensive, especially if the middle east doesn't stabilize soon.
Enjoy those Mustangs while you can, fellas.

No offense to Cue-Ball, but forget that. There is no such belief, as to getting used, to getting raped! That's like saying... Get used to me taking your lunch money everday. It's not going to happen. Sooner or later your going to punch me in the nose!

It's a good thing the Colonists didn't take that advice either when it came to being "raped" by the British.

 

[mustang20010]

The whole idea of a 1-day boycott of gasoline is kind of stupid. Like everyone else has said, it's really not going to do anything.

There is a way to fix the gas price situation, and it's very simple. But it will never happen. If all of us, everyone, would sit our @$$ at home (yes that means don't go to work) for a week or two, the head honcho towel head or whoever controls the prices will lose out and have to do something. If you think about it, it would work and work pretty quick - if we quit going to work, and customers quit coming, trucks quit driving, etc etc etc the losses there for gas and oil companies would be considerably huge. It would no doubt work, but like I said, it'll just never happen.


The other way (I'm not a political genious so I'm sure there are many reasons why this can't happen) is to somehow have some kind of price cap. It's dumb as hell to pay more for a gallon of gas than you do for a small bottle of water. I think $0.99 would be MORE, WAY MORE than enough to make some towel heads VERY VERY rich, so quit gouging you dirty greasy bastards!!!

okay sorry done ranting.

this is kind of a pointless thread anyway, so what am I doing posting in it?

 

[88stangmangt]

i love my vw diesel rabbit even more now with 40+miles to the gallon.

 

[_jb_]

OPEC is a bunch of greedy rich bastards...

Anyways with gas prices going up, so does alternative fuel ideas. Look at how far the hybrid cars have come only in a few years. Yes they are still primitive compared to our cars, but it is the future. Unless we all get fusion reactors in our Mustangs, we all will be at the mercy of fossil fuels and the dictators controlling them.

 

[iwashmycar]

I could imagine if everyone didn't drive for even one day. I'd probably drive because the roads would be so clear...LOL

 

[SmockDoiley]

I love my Mustang but I also realize at least that by driving 2 Mustangs not only am I screwing the environment, I am also helping the US rely on foreign oil. Modern Biology says that the natural oil reserves are down to no more than 50 years of oil at our current rate. The US is the largest offender of natural resource use. We use something like 30-40% of all energy yet only consist of only 10-15% of the world population. Relying on gas guzzling V8's is something inherently American and is costing all of us in gas. I think if this country was getting better mileage than a hike in gas price wouldnt effect us. I wouldnt mind paying $2 a gallon if I got 40 mpg. Go to Europe, they pay over $4 a gallon. You want to use a worthless non reusable resource like oil that pollutes the environment, well then your going to pay for it. I could really get into this but I dont feel like writing a term paper, nor do I think any of you who complain will listen.

 

[SmockDoiley]

And charging 99 cents a gallon is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Rising prices is a means to control how much gas is used. Obviously, if you want to conserve something or slow its use down, you raise the price. Crap, if the stuff was free, we'd be out of it already because everybody would be exploiting it.

 

[Idwitheld-1`]

just a few comments to enflame the issue:

1. The gasoline supply chain uses regional / local distrigution hubs. If demand drops for one day, it does NOTHING to the inventory as it uses very large storage vessles to reduce the "roller coaster affect" of supply and demand. The excess capacity will simply be absorbed into containment.

2. the increase in gasoline prices is caused by the Bush Administration. Higher gas proces allow the gas companies to pocket a greater proffit AND this also means greter re-election campaign contributions.

3. I suspect the math behind this is "counter-intuitive". Meaning it would work if human behavior remained constant. But, people will fill up the day before and after the 19th. Thus, rendering a null affect.

4. What we need is greater national investment in Fuel Cell technology. This is a very promising technology that could reduce our OPEC reliance.

5. China is consuming larger quantaties of Fuel oil. As consumerism engulfs China so will fuel consumption. With virtually NO air quality regulations there is no concern with fuel efficient engines and no natural deturent to excessive driving.

 

[66 Tiger]

the increase in gasoline prices is caused by the Bush Administration. Higher gas proces allow the gas companies to pocket a greater proffit AND this also means greter re-election campaign contributions.

Yeah..... That would be a brilliant re election tactic. Lets hit them where it hurts, drill the people for all their money, really piss everyone off, then ask for their votes in November. ( Sounds like somthing Katie Couric would say on the Today Show )

Go Bush!

 

[Apsychotic]

Oil needed for the production of?

Hello......there is still other types of oil that can be used and replentished quickly here. think about it.

 

[Boss 351]

Nothing we can do... Stoping the economy for a week sounds like a great idea but most people are close to bankrupcy so missing a week's pay for most means skipping the morgage or car payments...

I for one will be more active and use my bike or rollerblades to go to work on nice days. Not for the fuel savings (won't be much) but mostly to stay in shape.

 

[squall9393]

People not buying? Then maybe they'll jack the prices up for those who will. To compensate who knows what they'll do. Lower gas prices though? Come on. It'll never happen anytime soon. It's the economy. Give it a couple more years at least I'd say. Pay phones and stamps will never be 25 cents ever again. Inflation is a "mother".

 

[87'GTstang]

Yeah..... That would be a brilliant re election tactic. Lets hit them where it hurts, drill the people for all their money, really piss everyone off, then ask for their votes in November. ( Sounds like somthing Katie Couric would say on the Today Show )

Go Bush!

Some people are too kind and give too much credit where it is not due I can see right now that you aren't a very governmentally-aware person Idwitheld-1,`and you are acting like the average american and just blaming all of our problems on the president. I suppose you are going to blame the economic recession on Bush as well. Even though Greenspan is the iron fist and decided to make it happen in march of 2000. Hmm, if memory serves me correct, wasn't Clinton still president at the time and about 10 months before Bush truly took office? Timing was great being when he took office and all and the recession just started to be really noticed. Just like the average american also, they blamed the president even though he had nothing to do with the initial fall of it

 

[87'GTstang]

Oh yeah, btw, I won't be getting gas today (may 19th) because my truck has 1/2 a tank and the stang has 1/4 tank. So I guess i've done my part, I may have to stop and get it on the 20th or 21st though.

 

[Cue-Ball]

just a few comments to enflame the issue:

2. the increase in gasoline prices is caused by the Bush Administration. Higher gas proces allow the gas companies to pocket a greater proffit AND this also means greter re-election campaign contributions.

Um, no. I'm certainly no fan of Bush, but he's not to blame here. The price of raw crude oil has risen. The demand for crude oil (and gasoline) has risen. The supply of crude oil has dropped. That means that the price of gasoline goes up. It has nothing to do with Bush or Greenspan. No new federal taxes have been added to gasoline since the price started to increase and the president has no say as to how businesses or OPEC price their product.

Even if everyone in the United States stopped driving for a day, or even a week, it would likely have very little effect on the price of oil. China and Japan still consume large amounts of oil which would continue to drive pricing of crude. Also, cars are not the only things that use oil. To have any real effect would require us to stop purchasing most things made with petroleum. To do this would be virtually impossible, and even if it were, it would send the economy into such a slump that the great depression would look like a picnic. Virtually every single product produced in this country requires petroleum to produce, either directly or indirectly.

 

[87'GTstang]

Right, a lot of people seem to forget about the industrial sector of the economy. Like someone said previously, it takes petroleum to run the industrial sector with it's machines and various other operations, and then the fuel needed to ship it all where it's going. Bottom line, most of the complaining should be aimed towards OPEC, the american government only has a limited role in the whole petroleum importing business. Then there is the other side of the problem, the people to blame for the crisis at hand should be none other than the human race - we put ourselves in this situation.