DOOE heads found; They're cheap!

[stock50LX]

At the Pull a Part on 112th, at the end of the McCord Runway, I found and unbolted a set of 351 DOOE heads that had just had a valve job. These heads are as good as GT40's! Pull a Part charges 26 dollars for each head. Both heads are just sitting on the motor. They looked good. They are under the hood of a mid 70's T bird. If you are looking for good value for money in performance parts, you can't beat these. You'll need to act quickly though. Someone will snag them. These heads will bolt to a 5.0, but you will need adjustable rocker arms (there are some on other cars at the same wrecking yard) and some other odds and ends. One head is still bolted to the AC bracket so you'll need a few tools. All the head, intake, and exhuast bolts are out. I would have bought them but I already have extra heads lying around.

 

[ironmedic]

sssssssssssh u shouldnt tell people these things! LOL! now the secret is out and i may not make it in time!

 

[89MustangGX]

I look around the Pull-A-Parts every time I go -- looking for those deals. They're cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

Good find!

 

[redrumracing01]

stock 50 lx i cant remember wheather or not you said you can port heads
im the kid from the track that was running the primer gray 88 gt
the guy that had to barrow your jack if you do port heads or know any one
who does for a decent price please pm me i have a set of dooe casting 351
heads that i want to get ported for next season and also do you know
if pacific raceways is possibly opining up in feb for drag racing like ive heard
also thanks for the advice about geting an electric fan from pull a part
me and my freind that you met with the silver 50 bought a bunch of fans
so far i havent heated up above 145 deg it will kick ass during the summer

 

[stock50LX]

stock 50 lx i cant remember wheather or not you said you can port heads
im the kid from the track that was running the primer gray 88 gt
the guy that had to barrow your jack if you do port heads or know any one
who does for a decent price please pm me i have a set of dooe casting 351
heads that i want to get ported for next season and also do you know
if pacific raceways is possibly opining up in feb for drag racing like ive heard
also thanks for the advice about geting an electric fan from pull a part
me and my freind that you met with the silver 50 bought a bunch of fans
so far i havent heated up above 145 deg it will kick ass during the summer

I can port them for you. Bring them by over the holidays while I have the time. We should address the other needs of these heads: Do you want hardened seats in the exhaust for unleaded fuel or is this car just for racing? Do you want screw-in-studs or are you going to low-buck the whole thing? If you are going to low-buck the head work, you should not run a big cam or plan on high rpm ( 6000+) shifts

The tentative schedule for PR specifies opening on Feb 6. Based on past opening days, it is likely that they will open in February; but they might revise that early opening. We'll see. Be prepared for postponed racing while you wait for the track to dry -and poor traction during February and March.

Do you still have the 351 block? I already acquired another one, but let me know.

 

[stock50LX]

I look around the Pull-A-Parts every time I go -- looking for those deals. They're cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

Good find!

I see more and more EFI motors showing up. Right now, there are 5 351's in various cars and vans. The daunting problem is trying to do big things alone. I once got a 351 engine out and into a wheelbarrow by myself (with no engine hoist). That engine is now in my car. I doubt I'd be able to pull that off again.

 

[89MustangGX]

I see more and more EFI motors showing up. Right now, there are 5 351's in various cars and vans. The daunting problem is trying to do big things alone. I once got a 351 engine out and into a wheelbarrow by myself (with no engine hoist). That engine is now in my car. I doubt I'd be able to pull that off again.

I'd love to pick up a nice 351 to start -- if it was a roller I'd probably be even happier, but chances of that are slim from the looks of it. I don't know enough about the older blocks to know which ones are the more desirable ones -- I'm not really at that point, though I suppose for the right one I could make an exception.

Anyway, if I'm around and someone needs an extra set of hands - let me know. I have no problem helping out...

 

[stock50LX]

I'd love to pick up a nice 351 to start -- if it was a roller I'd probably be even happier, but chances of that are slim from the looks of it. I don't know enough about the older blocks to know which ones are the more desirable ones -- I'm not really at that point, though I suppose for the right one I could make an exception.

Anyway, if I'm around and someone needs an extra set of hands - let me know. I have no problem helping out...

I could have used you when I got the motor out. I will make the same offer.

Roller blocks were put in trucks beginning in 93. The ones I saw are not roller motors. The problem at Pull a Part is that you must lug in your own hoist. When I got the 351 out of the Bronco on my own, I did it by removing the front grill and bulkhead, putting the supplied wheelbarrow up to the crossover frame, then sliding the block down into the wheelbarrow. A method like that is probably the best bet sans engine hoist. If someone is to go to all the trouble of carrying-in a hoist, you might as well pull a couple motors out. Blocks are $65. and you can return them if they're not good. That is a great price. You can get the front cover with the block so that's all you really need, unless the thing has DOOE heads on it.

 

[89MustangGX]

I could have used you when I got the motor out. I will make the same offer.

You're a little ways away from me, but for the kind of prices they have it's definitely worth it.

I'll keep this in mind if I see anything special -- let me know of any good finds as well.

 

[redrumracing01]

stock50lx i still have the 351w if you or any one else is interested as for
the head work i will be down in california for xmas and they are still
on my 302 but i do want them studed and hard seated i was wondering
how much $$ it would cost you to do it and if you can set them up
for 2.02-1.60 valves or 2.08-1.60 valves i plan on buying a t-4 turbo
for my car to pump some decent boost so please let me know

 

[89MustangGX]

stock50lx i still have the 351w if you or any one else is interested

Details?

And why wouldn't you want to use it?

 

[redrumracing01]

while from what ive been told by at least 5 peoples knowledge which i trust
they pretty much have said to stay with the 5.0 because of how much the
crank weghs and the price for headers and other stuff i still want to put it in
but i dont feel like spending$400 on headers becuse im really think i would
rather turbo my motor instead of a supercharger it or n/a

 

[89MustangGX]

while from what ive been told by at least 5 peoples knowledge which i trust
they pretty much have said to stay with the 5.0 because of how much the
crank weghs and the price for headers and other stuff i still want to put it in
but i dont feel like spending$400 on headers becuse im really think i would
rather turbo my motor instead of a supercharger it or n/a

The additional cost is something I already know about, that's a definite.

How about some details on the 351 you have?

 

[redrumracing01]

its a 74 351w form a ven ,i bought the motor from a freind it suposidly
is a omc boat motor its just the short block the heads arnet for sale
because they are on my 50 i dont know what the cond of the lower
end is but there is a ridge a the tops of the the cylinder bores the block
looks new the pistons had minor carbon build up on them it is a
flat tappet cam motor also its a 4v motor i also have the stock worthless
intake also if your interested or know any one who is pm me

 

[5.0fox]

im runnin do0e heads on my car and i love them. i have 1.96/1.60 stainless valves comp cams spings and hard seats. with 2.02 intake valse there is very little clearnace between the intake and exhaust valves and they may contact at high temps.

 

[redrumracing01]

im a little confuszled do you have 2.02 valves in you 351 heads or 1.96 valves
and after they were ported did it make a huge differnce horse power wise.
i noticed before i put on the 351 heads it made about 145psi in all of the
cyl and after i put the 351 heads on that were bone stock it bumped
up to 185-190psi as for power wise it hasinet felt like it made more power
unless i use 110octane racefuel but then again i went from 14.8s to 14.2s
and now im shifting at 5000rpm insted of 5700rpm also you wouldnt happin
to have any pushrods layin around for a 302 w /351 heads or know the size
of them so i can buy some

 

[stock50LX]

im a little confuszled do you have 2.02 valves in you 351 heads or 1.96 valves
and after they were ported did it make a huge differnce horse power wise.
i noticed before i put on the 351 heads it made about 145psi in all of the
cyl and after i put the 351 heads on that were bone stock it bumped
up to 185-190psi as for power wise it hasinet felt like it made more power
unless i use 110octane racefuel but then again i went from 14.8s to 14.2s
and now im shifting at 5000rpm insted of 5700rpm also you wouldnt happin
to have any pushrods layin around for a 302 w /351 heads or know the size
of them so i can buy some

The DOOE heads have 60cc chambers while later model 351 heads have 69cc chambers, thus you picked up a lot of compression. Six tenths better is a big jump in performance. My ported 289 heads that were on my 351 have 54cc chambers and 1.94 intake with 1.60 exhaust valves. Yes, porting makes a difference. Stage one porting is the cheapest and offers the biggest gains. After stage one you spend more for less improvement and it takes the porter longer to accomplish.

 

[stock50LX]

im a little confuszled do you have 2.02 valves in you 351 heads or 1.96 valves
and after they were ported did it make a huge differnce horse power wise.
i noticed before i put on the 351 heads it made about 145psi in all of the
cyl and after i put the 351 heads on that were bone stock it bumped
up to 185-190psi as for power wise it hasinet felt like it made more power
unless i use 110octane racefuel but then again i went from 14.8s to 14.2s
and now im shifting at 5000rpm insted of 5700rpm also you wouldnt happin
to have any pushrods layin around for a 302 w /351 heads or know the size
of them so i can buy some

You will probably be able to use stock pushrods but you will need adjustable rockers. Do you have the stock ones?

 

[ironmedic]

i cant wait to finally get good at port/polish work! since im starting out, i have a long road ahead. if any of u guys have stock heads u wanna give away for free (or dirt cheap price), let me know so i can practice more. mr. stock50lx gave me alot of valuable info on what to do so ill keep it in mind while practicing. i have a mustang performance book that has several detailed pages about port/polish work. im working on getting all my goodies together so i can learn this neat trade.

 

[redrumracing01]

i still have the stock rail type rockers on the 351 heads they seem to work allright some one said i need longer pushrods so i get all of the
lift from my cam wich i dont know how much i am losing. iron medic
once i get my 351w heads ported you can have my stock et7e
heads i would say you can have them right know but i need heads
so i can drive my car while the351s are being ported.stock50lx
give me a price for the porting and how long it would take you to
do them and if you have time of course,probly in end of jan or feb.thanks