E Brake??

Origommi · Jul 16, 2006

I pull up on my emergency brake and my wheels wont lock up. I am thinking its either my break pads or a caliper is froze up. If its a caliper that has froze up is their a easy way to fix them or do they need to be replaced? Are they expensive to get fixed? Thanks all.

Kilgore Trout · Jul 16, 2006

Well, you have to pull pretty damn hard on it to get it to even slow the car down. I am sure it is fine.

Park on a slope, put the car in nuetral, set the e-brake and see if she rolls...

Origommi · Jul 16, 2006

I live in Germany and for my car to pass inspection they let it roll at 5 mph and then pull the e break. If the car does not lock up then it fails.

Kilgore Trout · Jul 16, 2006

Wow that is a tough inspection man... I do not see how my Mustang would ever pass that one. Perhaps someone else will have some ideas on what you can do...

DTNODYA · Jul 16, 2006

My 98' had a recall for the e-brake. If your car is a 98 (maybe other years too) then see if it has a recall. FWIW, I never got mine 'fixed' anyway ...

Origommi · Jul 16, 2006

Mine is a 96 GT

Stang|ess · Jul 16, 2006

I don't think my rear would lock up on my 04. I have to make it click 4-5 times when parked on a steep hill, and even then I leave it in gear.

Is there a way to tighten the cable?

CRZYHRSGT · Jul 16, 2006

Short of the car being on wet/oily asphault, snow or ice I think it would be pretty rare to find a car that WOULD lock 'em up in a straight line. Isn't that the purpose of an "emergency brake", to slow the car down when it can't normally? I would think that locking up the rear wheels in an emergency would only add problems. Ya might want to check and make sure that's the way they're testing...

Mustang5L5 · Jul 16, 2006

Origommi said:
I live in Germany and for my car to pass inspection they let it roll at 5 mph and then pull the e break. If the car does not lock up then it fails.

You are kidding me??

The Mustang won't pass then. The rotors on the GT are too small to lock the wheels up. I know mine won't. I've tried it before too. If i pull the e-brake hard at 10MPH all it does is slowly draw the car to a stop. It's done this since new.

But park on the steepest incline and set the e-brake and it will hold it all night long...it just won't lock the wheels up.

Maybe with larger cobra rear disks it might have enough leverage to lock the rear but i doubt a GT will ever do it.

The calipers are self-tightening, so i don't think anything will help.

40th GT · Jul 16, 2006

To lock up the rears using the e-brake on a RWD car, wouldn't you have to disengage the clutch, or put the gearshift in neutral?

thomas91169 · Jul 16, 2006

CRZYHRSGT said:
Short of the car being on wet/oily asphault, snow or ice I think it would be pretty rare to find a car that WOULD lock 'em up in a straight line. Isn't that the purpose of an "emergency brake", to slow the car down when it can't normally? I would think that locking up the rear wheels in an emergency would only add problems. Ya might want to check and make sure that's the way they're testing...

alot of import cars ebrakes are alot tighter than domestics. my eclipse could lock them up easily by ripping up the ebrake, i used to whip 180's all the time with the ebrake-skid method(since it was fwd) same with my buddies integra, now his srt4 and even my moms neon locks the rears with the ebrake.

it might have something to do with the weight of the vehicle and the tension of the ebrake cable and even the ability of the rear brakes.

BTW. when trying this maneuver, do NOT let the ebrake click. hold down the button to let yourself have full control over the ebrake. the button is only to lock it in place after the car has stopped.

sunburstgold · Jul 16, 2006

Mustangs dont use the caliper when the e brake is engaged anyway, there is a small mechanical drum brake built into the rear rotors that holds shoes like any other drum brake and that is what is used when the e brake is installed not the rotor.

four six · Jul 16, 2006

Its actually not called an "E" brake its a parking brake. Just thought you would wanna know

DTNODYA · Jul 16, 2006

four six said:
Its actually not called an "E" brake its a parking brake. Just thought you would wanna know

What is an emergency brake then?

CRZYHRSGT · Jul 16, 2006

thomas91169 said:
alot of import cars ebrakes are alot tighter than domestics. my eclipse could lock them up easily by ripping up the ebrake, i used to whip 180's all the time with the ebrake-skid method(since it was fwd) same with my buddies integra, now his srt4 and even my moms neon locks the rears with the ebrake.

it might have something to do with the weight of the vehicle and the tension of the ebrake cable and even the ability of the rear brakes.

BTW. when trying this maneuver, do NOT let the ebrake click. hold down the button to let yourself have full control over the ebrake. the button is only to lock it in place after the car has stopped.

That's why I mentioned the "straight line". I used to do the e-brake skid in my old VWs (oh, the fun of FWD). I'm pretty sure they're able to do this b/c the sideways force of the turn allows the brakes to lock more easily.

Great BTW, btw. You can get in a lot of trouble by not holding in the button. We had an Audi tech (yes, HAD) that was out on a rainy road after putting new rear pads and rotors on a 2000-ish Audi S4. He was going kinda fast, yanked the handle to check the e-brake (without holding in the button), lost control, went over a curb, took out a couple year old tree and totalled the car.

Mustang5L5 · Jul 16, 2006

sunburstgold said:
Mustangs dont use the caliper when the e brake is engaged anyway, there is a small mechanical drum brake built into the rear rotors that holds shoes like any other drum brake and that is what is used when the e brake is installed not the rotor.

I take it you haven't ever done brakes on the rear?

The Mustang uses integrated parking brake in the rear calipers. Wen you engage the e-brake it pushes out and locks the rear pistons slightly. This is why you must screw in the pistons when doing rear pads on a Mustang.

There are cars that use a drum brake inside the rotor as the parking brake, but the Mustang has never had this style setup.

Mustang5L5 · Jul 16, 2006

DTNODYA said:
What is an emergency brake then?

Same thing really

It's all kinda confusing.

WHile technically an e-brake since it's a supplimental brake, it's technically a hand brake or parking brake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_brake

But if you loose your brakes going down a hill, who says you can't use it as an e-brake???

Mustang5L5 · Jul 16, 2006

The rear 10.5" disks on the V6/GT just dpon't have the leverage to lock up a fat-tired GT. Maybe if you installed some really skinny 15" wheels with 195 series rubber it might lock up. Like i said before, my e-brake will hold the car on the steepest of hills and never let go, but i can't lock them up at 5MPH

topless98gt · Jul 17, 2006

I used to lock up my Festiva back tires at 55mph! It was a blasty!

That's how I did 180°s and drifted in the egg (NOT AT 55MPH!). T'was fun, I was actually looking to get another one. I miss that car , but I'd miss the Mustang more if I sold it.

topless98gt · Jul 17, 2006

Momentum and still standing are two different approaches. My car (Mustang) won't BUDGE if I try to take off in first gear with the emergency brake up. But if I am coming to a stop just to get out for a sec, often I pull the e-brake and let it slow me. Is this bad for my e-brake or my car at all??

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