Electrical Electric Fan Choices

90lxwhite · Nov 4, 2013

So h2o pump is leaking and while its out I'm thinking bout switching to an electric fan. Late model has a "kit" for $150 and American muscle has a fan for around $90. What is the benefit of the more expensive vs the cheaper?
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/PRO-67015/86-93-Ford-Mustang-50L-Electric-Fan-Kit

http://www.americanmuscle.com/mishimoto-slim-radiator-fan.html

larrym1961 · Nov 4, 2013

I bought a new Contour/Cougar/Mystique dual electric fan off eBay for $47, Fits like stock and cools great.

90lxwhite · Nov 4, 2013

larrym1961 said:
I bought a new Contour/Cougar/Mystique dual electric fan off eBay for $47, Fits like stock and cools great.

What else is needed to make it work? Connectors, harness, etc?

CT Grim · Nov 4, 2013

I just installed this one:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/SVE-8600A/1979-93-Mustang-Aluminum-Fan-And-Shroud-Kit
With this:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/DER-16749/150-240-Degree-Adjustable-Fan-Controller
Everything you need and install was a snap. Very happy so far.

90lxwhite · Nov 4, 2013

I think I'd go w the one for 150, it comes w the adjustsable fan controller too n my radiator is in good shape. If that cougar set up is fairly ez to do I'd go that route

95Vert383AOD · Nov 4, 2013

The difference is quality and CFM. With that said some of the most reliable highest CFM flowing fans are OEM ford ones. Lincoln Mark viii, Contour, Taurus etc. as larrym1961 also mentioned. Most aftermarket fans barely cover half the radiator and are weak. The best ones are the Ford engineered ones. Millions went into their design. All you need is the fan, pigtail and a decent controller capable of handling the amp draw.

Chris

90lxwhite · Nov 4, 2013

95Vert383AOD said:
The difference is quality and CFM. With that said some of the most reliable highest CFM flowing fans are OEM ford ones. Lincoln Mark viii, Contour, Taurus etc. as larrym1961 also mentioned. Most aftermarket fans barely cover half the radiator and are weak. The best ones are the Ford engineered ones. Millions went into their design. All you need is the fan, pigtail and a decent controller capable of handling the amp draw.

Chris

Where can one find this said "pigtail?" Sorry if its a noobish question

mikestang63 · Nov 4, 2013

My vote
Taurus E Fan from any mid 90's 3.8 V6 $35-50 at any JY
Flex a lite Variable Speed Controller FAL 33054 $110-120
another $20 in wires, connectors,shrink wrap, weatherstripping, brackets, hardware, solder

I have this in my car and with a Champion 3 core alum radiator the temp never gets over A even in 90 degree weather in S FLA- with U/D pulleys and the A/C on.

There are a few good install writeups on this setup. One on this site and also

http://forums.corral.net/forums/gen...01-taurus-fan-flex-lite-33054-vsc-how-do.html

95Vert383AOD · Nov 4, 2013

90lxwhite said:
Where can one find this said "pigtail?" Sorry if its a noobish question

The pigtail is just the plug that plugs into the factory fan with wires you need to connect to. Ebay, Junk yard, Ford Dealer.
Below is an example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Coolin...Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d343de440&vxp=mtr

theconductor · Nov 4, 2013

90lxwhite said:
Where can one find this said "pigtail?" Sorry if its a noobish question

You don't even need the pigtail. Just us a wire connector and some shrink wrap. I used a male/female set so I don't have to cut any wire to remove the shroud.

Shakerhood · Nov 4, 2013

I went with the Cougar/Contour Fan along with the FAL Variable Speed Controller.

larrym1961 · Nov 4, 2013

I am using a Flex-A-Lite Veriable Speed Controller with my Contour/Cougar fans. These are very easy to set up.

krazedstang · Nov 5, 2013

+1 for the Lincoln Mark viii, Contour, Taurus etc. I still have the mechanical fan in my Vert but I've done my share of research on this and NO ONE who has one of those fans has said anything bad about them whatsoever.

scottyheps · Nov 5, 2013

I've been meaning to do this setup with a Taurus fan for awhile. I was in a shop the other day and they had this http://www.flex-a-lite.com/accessor...lers/flex-a-liter-cooling-control-module.html in the bargain bin. It says 40 amp for startup, will these be a suitable controller for the 3.8 Taurus fan? I just grabbed it without really looking at it :s

mikestang63 · Nov 6, 2013

I'd put it up on ebay for $75- they sell for $90- and take the proceeds and buy the FAL33054. I don't think it is made to handle the amps from a Taurus fan and is not a variable speed controller.

The Variable Speed Control also acts as a relay and lets you vary the temperature at which the fan or fans turn. Additionally, it sets the fan speed from 60-100 percent, depending on the coolant temperature. This reduces the electrical load when the fans first start, and only draws the amperage needed for the temperature of the engine coolant. This controller also keeps the fan or fans running for 30 seconds after the key is turned off. This module is rated to manage more amperage than the Cooling Control Module; 45-amps at fan start-up.

The one you bought

The Cooling Control Module is Flex-a-lite part number 31149. It provides the same function as the 31147 Cooling Control Module with a higher amperage rating (40-amps at fan start-up). It also has an integrated air-conditioning control which turns the electric fan on whenever the air conditioning is on. The Flex-a-lite Cooling Control Module is ideally suited for any Flex-a-lite single fan, and can be also be used with some of our lower-amperage dual fans such as part numbers 330, 365 or 412. It should not be used with fans that draw 28 or more continuous amps, such as Flex-a-lite part numbers 290, 295 or 480.

madspeed · Nov 9, 2013

Mkviii fan or taurus fan all the way

madspeed · Nov 9, 2013

I second the fal 33054 or a dcc controller like i have

JohnnyP123 · Feb 9, 2014

Anybody installed one of the Delta PAG's brushless cooling fans? It seems this is the only brushless game in town. Shopping around before the weather gets hot. This looks like the highest tech fan I'v ever seen. Kit comes with controller, wiring, everything. Anybody installed one?

mikestang63 · Feb 9, 2014

JohnnyP123 said:
Anybody installed one of the Delta PAG's brushless cooling fans? It seems this is the only brushless game in town. Shopping around before the weather gets hot. This looks like the highest tech fan I'v ever seen. Kit comes with controller, wiring, everything. Anybody installed one?

It looks nice but doesn't move a whole lot of air. Certainly not as much as my Taurus or MKVII fans. Plus it's almost $400.

http://shop.deltapag.com/Brushless-Fan-Kits_c2.htm

Their features include a "self cooling" capability, where the fan cools itself while operating, ensuring a long operating life of 50,000 hours or more--longer than any other electric cooling fan; an electronic control module (ECM) that communicates with the temperature/speed controller, and also combines mil-spec and Grade O components (to ensure the highest performance and longevity) with an easily-replaceable modular design.

Other features include adjustability from 1,000 CFM to 2,800 CFM; an operating life of 50,000 hours (or more!)--ten times longer than conventional electric fans; plus "Soft Start" technology that eliminates power spikes.

Read more: http://blogs.moparmusclemagazine.co...rushless-electric-cooling-fans/#ixzz2srN1lPod

JohnnyP123 · Feb 9, 2014

The Ford Mark VII only moves 2,700 CFM based on some real world numbers on the following link. Delta PAG pull 2,800 CFM
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_1111_electric_radiator_fans/photo_02.html

Also you need to put a huge relay and fuses on this monster, not very efficient and its likely that the relay, fuses or bushes will leave you stranded, right? I dont know man... regarding the price... $350ish, I think, it comes with all the electronics and sensors. If you add up all the stuff needed to make that Mark VII work properly (relays, fuses, controller, harness & fan) its going to cost about the same and you still have an unreliable brushed motored fan.

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