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mustanglvr95

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so ive been thinking about gettin a 35gpm meziere ele water pump, heard one of the best u can get n free up some hp up top too.wondering if its worth it??
 

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IMO it is well worth the money. I've had one for about 2+ years now and love it. Cool down between passes takes only a few minutes, I wouldn't hesistate putting one on a street car. I believe the 94/95 water pumps are 55gpm and are expensive but worth it. Plus it is nice to get rid of the thermostat...man I hate those things...lol.
 

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your cars dam fast! u notice any power gain?
 
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on what i heard that electric water pumps are mostly good for track instead of street. i forgot the reason why its not suitable for the street to be honest. i heard good things about the ford racing water pumps that they cool more efficent. their cheap also.
 

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Sorry couldn't tell ya power gains I put on the pump on with the new motor.

tstang: Meziere pumps are just fine for the street, they actually state they will work great on a street driven vehicle. I know I wouldn't hesitate to use mine on the street. The Meziere pump will move more water than a FRPP pump with less parasitic drag. This is not saying the FRPP mechanical pump sucks b/c it doesn't I use to run one and it did great. It all comes down to money and if you want to spend the $400 for the electric water pump.
 

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Summit has one listed for my application for $295 so perhaps they have come down in price?


http://store.summitracing.com/partd...924760+4294908331+4294840125+115&autoview=sku

EDIT: Just realized you probably have the 300 series which is more expensive then the 100 series.
 
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Redsnk95 said:
IMO it is well worth the money. I've had one for about 2+ years now and love it. Cool down between passes takes only a few minutes, I wouldn't hesistate putting one on a street car. I believe the 94/95 water pumps are 55gpm and are expensive but worth it. Plus it is nice to get rid of the thermostat...man I hate those things...lol.
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Why does the electric water pump get rid of the thermostat?
 

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Redline_351R said:
Summit has one listed for my application for $295 so perhaps they have come down in price?


http://store.summitracing.com/partd...924760+4294908331+4294840125+115&autoview=sku

EDIT: Just realized you probably have the 300 series which is more expensive then the 100 series.
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I believe that one is for a foxbody timing cover. I think the 94/95 pump only comes in the 300 series.
 

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Redsnk95 said:
I believe that one is for a foxbody timing cover. I think the 94/95 pump only comes in the 300 series.
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Beginning Year 1969
Ending Year 1997
Engine Type V8
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CID 351
Engine Size 5.8L/351
Engine Family Ford small block Windsor
Application Notes Not for use with serpentine drive systems.


seems llike it would work
 

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ya from wat ive been reading its only 300 series n 55 gpm
 

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damn well that sucks
 

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Stopsign32v said:
Why does the electric water pump get rid of the thermostat?
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Yeah...Inquiring minds want to know.

ALSO....does it keep a "street-driven" car cooler also, or just a car resting between track passes?

ALSO, ALSO....do you just run a belt that bypasses the "normal" pulley?

Thanks
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I run a water restrictor on mine, I run a bigger size one in the winter and a smaller one in the summer time. I personally don't have a way to test how this works on a street driven vehicle but I have yet to come across any problems.

RC, you can get the water pump with a free spinning pulley built onto the pump housing allowing you to run a standard belt configuration.
 
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You have yet to explain how an electric water pump gets rid of the thermostat.
 

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I never said it gets rid of the thermostat. Read my post above I said "it is nice to get rid of the thermostat".

Nowhere did I say that you must remove the thermostat when you get an electric water pump, nor would I make an untrue statement. I removed the t-stat b/c I had no need for it with the electric water pump. I removed the t-stat so that I can cool the motor down between passes. Kind of hard to flow coolant through the motor when the motor is off if the thermostat is closed. Plus the removal of the theromstat keeps my motor from quickly warming up, it takes a good while for my car to get up to 150 degrees, when I race it the Water Temp is about 130 degrees or so.
 

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Is removing the t-stat something you would recommend without an electric water pump?
 
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str8stang036 said:
Is removing the t-stat something you would recommend without an electric water pump?
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The water pump has nothing to do with the thermostat.
 

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I have run many cars at one point without a thermostat. Your car will just run cooler an will take longer to come up to temp. might never make 180* which from what I understand is optimum for our motors.
 

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Redsnk95 said:
Plus it is nice to get rid of the thermostat...man I hate those things...lol.
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Does the pump have some other way of regulating the coolant flow? Getting rid of the thermostate altogether normally leads to all kinds of problems. Longer warm up periods, hot spots in the block, reduced fuel econonmy, dirtier emmisions and the need for more frequent oil changes.
 

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Guess I will just follow up all my posts with "this is what works on my car", which majority of the people here know my car never sees the street.

How about someone go test their car without a thermostat and report back.
 
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