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1992mustangLX

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I failed MA emissions and want to get inspected so i can get rid of my cats and put a off road x pipe and new exhaust on. Want to have current inspection so i dont have to worry for atleast a year.

So i passed everything but the Hc count (hydro carbons, correct?) From what I understand it measures unburnt fuel that is being released. i was over by a good amount almost double.

I have the the trick flow top end kit with 24# injectors. Have factory cats installed and all the smog equiptment attached. My fuel pressure is set at about 42psi and timing set at 13*.

Anyone know of anything i can do to get it to pass and bring the Hc count down.Thanks.
 

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How long has it been since you did a tune up? If it has been awhile i would do that and change the oil.
 

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This stuff did the trick for me.
 

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was the car warm when it got tested? This is the reason most people fail for HC's. When the car is cold the computer gives its much more fuel and thus a high HC count. Make sure the car is HOT and by hot i mean beat the snot out of it on the way over to get it tested and dont shut it off and let it sit there. The hotter the car is, the leaner the AFR will be and the less HC you will emit. Also check the normal tune up stuff...plugs cap rotor and check the O2's (clean them with elec. contact cleaner) This should get you to pass.
 
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Thanks for your replies. I actually just finished the motor so all the parts are new. Gaskets,heads,cam,intake(upper +lower)oil change a few times already. The only thing i can think to do is to turn the fuel pressure down and check the o2 sensors. It funny you mention to have it warm when testing because when they put it on the machine to run it, they didnt put the fan blowing torwards the front of the car and it was overheating. So it was pretty damn hot when they were running it. I dont know what else to do here..man i really just want to pass so i can finish putting all the parts on.
 

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High NO - high combustion temps - retard timing, check EGR for operation.
High CO – Rich condition - fuel pressure too high, check O2 sensors, replace air filter. Clean MAF element.
High HC – Lean misfire, vacuum leak, common misfire due to worn or weak ignition system components. On rare occasions, an overly rich mixture may be the cause. Do the ethanol/E85 fill up as suggested.
High CO & HC - Cat converters, smog pump, and smog pump controls.

How to pass emissions testing:

1.) Make sure all the emissions gear the car was made with is present and connected up properly. That includes a working smog pump and cats.

2.) Make sure that you have fresh tune up with spark plugs, plug wires, cap, rotor, fuel & air filters. An oil & filter change is a good idea while you are at it.

3.)Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/





IF your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of a test lamp.



Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-7208-90-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.

4.) Post the codes and get help to fix them. Don’t try to pass with codes not fixed. Clearing the computer just temporarily removes them from memory, it doesn’t fix the problem that caused the code to be set.

5.) Be sure to do the testing on a hot engine. Drive for 15-20 minutes prior to taking the test to get operating temps up into the normal range. Do not shut off the engine while waiting for your turn on the test machine. An engine up to full operating temperature puts out fewer emissions.
 

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also, bring the timing back to 10*, advanced timing will cause high HC.

what were the readings?? O2, CO2, CO, NOx, HC
 
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