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Progress Thread Finally got my first Fox Body - 1988 GT

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Potomus Pete

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Those leaks are all very common . Took me three years to track them down , and get them one by one . I still have a rear main that wont go away .
 

BlakeusMaximus

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Hey Dude, did you over tighten it?

 

Steel1

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Yeah looks like rear main seal leak, oil pan gasket leak, oil level sensor leak, both oil pan drain plugs leaking.
All pretty common leaks in these cars or any car of this age.
Like someone already mentioned spray everything down with brake cleaner first and try to get a better idea of
exactly what's leaking.

Just FYI...

To fix the rear main you'll need to pull the transmission/clutch , remove and replace rear main seal.
To fix the oil pan gasket....well you could pull the engine making it easy to access the pan/gasket
or......
Pull upper intake, unbolt motor mounts, jack engine up as high as it will go,
support engine , unbolt pan let it rest on K member, reach up into pan and drop oil pump
and pick-up in pan, fight the pan out of the K member , install gasket and reverse order.

I've done it the second way twice and it's a PIA !!
 

7991LXnSHO

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40’s were Dronemasters on my car, and not being able to talk with someone or really hear the Pioneer stereo were problems.
A high flow BBK cat X pipe and Super Turbo mufflers is mean at idle, but does not require ear plugs on the highway.
I’d get that surface rust neutralized and sealed now before it becomes structural. Is it near where the battery could have leaked on your model? The rail and tower are structural on the unibody.
Baking soda and water will take care of the acid, then a wire brush clean up, Rusoleum Rusty Metal Primer and a good top coat will do a good job, even on a budget. Then make sure the battery tray is not cracked in case the battery leaks again.
The exhaust pipe looks like it got a muffler bandage applied to it. That’s a temporary fix. If there is a hole, and a bad fix if it is splicing pipes together.

DudeStang said:
Man, based on some previous google/youtube searches, everyone seemed to praise the flowmaster 40 series as the ultimate exhaust sound on the pushrod 5.0. I guess I'll have to look at some other options, haha.



Thanks for the link. Those wave tubes are interesting, never seen anything like that before.
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DudeStang

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BlakeusMaximus said:
Hey Dude, did you over tighten it?

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Pretty sure I took that pic before I drained the oil..I tried not to go too crazy tight when I put it back on. I will take a look again when I have the car back up on ramps or jack stands.
 
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DudeStang

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Rdub6 said:
It was connected to an old exhaust pipe. Looks like someone cut it off there and left that piece in the hanger.
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Something to do with emissions/catalytic converters perhaps?
 

Steel1

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DudeStang said:
Something to do with emissions/catalytic converters perhaps?
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No, it's was one of the hangers from the stock exhaust.
The replacement mid-pipe most likely didn't have provisions for hangers in that spot,
previous owner must have not been able to remove them so they just cut them.
My aftermarket X pipe doesn't have those hangers either, no big deal.
 
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Rdub6

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DudeStang said:
Something to do with emissions/catalytic converters perhaps?
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Here is what that piece does on an exhaust that comes with them:
 
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Rdub6 said:
Here is what that piece does on an exhaust that comes with them:
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What a relief, lol. I couldn’t see it that well on my car (garage definitely needs better lighting) and my brain immediately thought..this looks problematic! Something is missing!
 
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DudeStang

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Steel1 said:
Yeah looks like rear main seal leak, oil pan gasket leak, oil level sensor leak, both oil pan drain plugs leaking.
All pretty common leaks in these cars or any car of this age.
Like someone already mentioned spray everything down with brake cleaner first and try to get a better idea of
exactly what's leaking.

Just FYI...

To fix the rear main you'll need to pull the transmission/clutch , remove and replace rear main seal.
To fix the oil pan gasket....well you could pull the engine making it easy to access the pan/gasket
or......
Pull upper intake, unbolt motor mounts, jack engine up as high as it will go,
support engine , unbolt pan let it rest on K member, reach up into pan and drop oil pump
and pick-up in pan, fight the pan out of the K member , install gasket and reverse order.

I've done it the second way twice and it's a PIA !!
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Oh man...The oil pan gasket sounds like a nightmare. I watched BREW2L’s video on doing that without lifting the engine and it doesn’t look pleasant...

Definitely plan to spend some time underneath the car doing the cleaning up when the weather gets a little bit warmer. Thanks for your inputs.
 

DudeStang

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7991LXnSHO said:
40’s were Dronemasters on my car, and not being able to talk with someone or really hear the Pioneer stereo were problems.
A high flow BBK cat X pipe and Super Turbo mufflers is mean at idle, but does not require ear plugs on the highway.
I’d get that surface rust neutralized and sealed now before it becomes structural. Is it near where the battery could have leaked on your model? The rail and tower are structural on the unibody.
Baking soda and water will take care of the acid, then a wire brush clean up, Rusoleum Rusty Metal Primer and a good top coat will do a good job, even on a budget. Then make sure the battery tray is not cracked in case the battery leaks again.
The exhaust pipe looks like it got a muffler bandage applied to it. That’s a temporary fix. If there is a hole, and a bad fix if it is splicing pipes together.
Click to expand...

Per some earlier recommendations in this thread I started using a wire brush extension on my drill to remove some of the rust. Still need some more work but my plan is to keep doing that and eventually use something to paint over it/seal it. Thanks for the more specific recs on cleaning and the battery tray. It didn’t look like it had any cracks when I replaced the battery but will double check and probably at least get replacement hardware.
 

DudeStang

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Serious mod progress yesterday with this short antenna, lol
 

General karthief

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DudeStang said:
Serious mod progress yesterday with this short antenna, lol
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do they work good for picking up radio stations or are they just for looks and everybody plays music from their fones?
 

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General karthief said:
do they work good for picking up radio stations or are they just for looks and everybody plays music from their fones?
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I haven't tested yet but will give it a try in the next few days. The alpine deck in the fox doesn't appear to have any sort of plug for a phone.
 

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General karthief said:
do they work good for picking up radio stations or are they just for looks and everybody plays music from their fones?
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I didn't notice any reception issues when I put one I my car, but the stations I listen to are pretty local to me. Although most of the time I am listing to USB or Bluetooth
 

Rdub6

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I can’t hear my radio with my Flowmasters
 
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General karthief

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my radio sucks for reseption, I play cds most of the time anyway.
 

DudeStang

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General karthief said:
my radio sucks for reseption, I play cds most of the time anyway.
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I just have the Lil Wayne CD the seller left in the car but haven't driven the fox on long enough trips to really need anything additional to listen to.

Forgot to mention this the other day....when I took the car for a short spin around the neighborhood, I pressed the horn pad and figured out that the horn I had connected was definitely the high pitch horn, lol. It sounded pretty sad and pathetic without the garage walls helping it echo. I'm going to need to find a way to get the other horn attached too at some point.
 

General karthief

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Have you tried to bolt the bracket to the frame rail and bolt the horns to the bracket?
 

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My buddy has a short antenna on his 89gt and the reception is terrible but he streams from his phone so
 
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