First fox... she needs help.

TheGrinch77

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Hey new here and looking to un-rig my new to me fox body

Car is a 1992 GT 5.0 5 speed. I believe the engine had been out at least once as the block and heads are painted cat yellow. Supposed to have GT40 heads cam.... like they all do right?

The kid before me beat the [email protected]#* out of it doing burn outs and what not. I am trying to turn it into a respectable daily / weekend hotrod.
Posting here to get some more experanced eyes looking at all the problem areas I see. Pics will come soon as will the questions but wanted to say thanks for checking it out and thanks for any info.

So why did I buy this bucket? Well I wanted a mass air car, had to be a 5 speed, had to be a drive while I fix up type project and most importantly NO RUST/ROT. The paint is shot and the interior is dirty but it has what seem like good bones.
So far I have replaced the gauge cluster and got all the gauges working. This might seem dumb but when I got this care nothing but the oil pressure sender worked Also fixed the windows and disassembled the doors to fix wiring and window motor issues

On to the questions:
What intake is this? Ford Explorer?
what are the open ports on the throttle body for?
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2000xp8

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Looks to be an explorer intake.
The open ports are for the EGR spacer, they have coolant that runs through it.
Not the end of the world, in everyone's youth here we disconnected them, in adult life we fix things like that.
Hard to tell in the pics, but looks like a hose with a screw in the top that goes to the front side of it.
 

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Caterpillar yellow? Really? What was he thinking?
Anyway, yes that is an explorer intake :nice: , pull off the alternator and look for three vertical bars on the end of the head, that would be gt40 heads :nice:
 

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I could probably live with the yellow block, but a red ac compressor?
For the record it looks like a pretty good, mostly complete project. Some teenage handy work and decals, but it looks like a good starting point.
With any luck the AC evaporator is still good with it open (not sure the method to clear one out) and you can get the AC to work.
 
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Hey guys thanks for the input. She is bypassed but still there.

here is what I can see done to it... keep in mind this is my fist ford and first mustang always been more of a Chevy and mechanical diesel guy.

car has:
BBK sub frame connectors
BBK short headers and H pipe ( no cats)
Explorer intake
GT40 heads??
?303 cam
AC delete as he called it
No O2’s no harness and caps in mid pipes... Why Why Why?
17 inch 5 spokes 4 lug
Short throw shifter
LX tails.

Will attach more pics. Would love input on vac lines. Also has a gas smell but still pulled 24 mpg highway.
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Are you seriously saying that the oxygen sensors have been removed? The car will not run right without them and there is ZERO benefit to removing them. That needs to be fixed asap.

Chris
 

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When you replace the 02 sensors/harness, make sure you use the correct harness. There are two different ones. One is for automatic, one is for 5 speed. They are pinned different. The most important thing is that the harness matches the ecu in the car.

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Are you seriously saying that the oxygen sensors have been removed? The car will not run right without them and there is ZERO benefit to removing them. That needs to be fixed asap.

Chris
yeah no 02’s. I have no idea why?? I think some people do this for open loop or some others nonsense but who knows. PO knew fox body’s.....

I think this car was put together by someone with knowledge of these cars but some things have me scratching my head.
Was also missing some belhousibg bolts. But I think they just loosened up.
 

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Appears that the previous owner was a hack. Sorry but the evidence is overwhelming.
I bet there is no purge canister. That would explain the fuel smell, also check the filler neck to fuel tank seal.
 

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Hey yeah no offense at all. Not my work bash that guy all you want.

my goal is to get this pony deliced and back on the streets. The car does have good power and runs strong so I know the potential is there. It’s also rot free so if nothing else it’s a good shell. I like a challenge and thanks to the support in used parts I am up for a challenge.
Beats the heck out of the old rover I was daily driving before this. The charcoal canister is still there so that’s a plus!! Lol
 
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That car is not that bad in my opinion. But hey, I live in Georgia, we have very low standards. We deal with much worse stuff here on stangnet. How does it run? If the car runs ok, it looks like you just have a few small details to work out. The car will absolutely run with no O2 sensors, just not as well. So that should be restored. If you live in a warm climate, it's fine to not run coolant to the throttle body spacer. The SN 5.0s never had it, and work fine. If you want to restore that back, it's an easy fix. Should be a nipple on the heater core rail at the front of the engine, and a nipple on a pipe plug on the back of the engine. Remove caps, put in hoses.

The smog pump and system has also been deleted. If you want to ditch the AC compressor, there are cheap kits to do that. There is a possible problem that the previous owner put ProLong in the engine. Well, not that big of an issue, but change the oil.

Welcome to StangNet. We pride ourselves in being as helpful and mature as we can be.

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egr not connected
cannister purge line from intake plugged with a bolt
Does have nice silicon hoses

Easy way to see if you have GT40 or P heads is look at the front of the heads. GT40 have 3 vertical bars GT40P have 4.. The intake is a 93 to 96 Explorer with an internal EGR. The later 97 to 99 are external EGR,, Easy to tell the difference by looking at the bottom of the area where the throttle body attaches to. The 93 to 96 have no notch in the bottom while the 97 to 99 have an upside down V shaped notch. Both flow about the same as the Cobra or GT40.

I agree that this was owned by someone who "thought" he knew what he was doing to make the car faster.

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What is prolong?? It has a rear main leak but no other leaks I can see. I would like to reinstall the ac.. nice feature here in the summer. No smog pump your right.
 

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What is prolong?? It has a rear main leak but no other leaks I can see. I would like to reinstall the ac.. nice feature here in the summer. No smog pump your right.
snake oil that used to be marketed back in the 90's. I believe it had PTFE's or some other crap. Probably long since been gone in past oil changes. Dont put anything in the crankcase except oil and maybe some MMO as an occasional cleanup. 95% of these cars have rear main seal leak. You can usually fix that with the teflon repair sleeve but know you have to drop the exhaust, trans, bellhousing, flywheel to get to the back of the crank where the seal is. Most just live with it until they end up pulling the motor for rebuild/upgrade/replace. I did it on many cars and it's a PITA with the engine in.
 

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egr not connected
cannister purge line from intake plugged with a bolt
Does have nice silicon hoses

Easy way to see if you have GT40 or P heads is look at the front of the heads. GT40 have 3 vertical bars GT40P have 4.. The intake is a 93 to 96 Explorer with an internal EGR. The later 97 to 99 are external EGR,, Easy to tell the difference by looking at the bottom of the area where the throttle body attaches to. The 93 to 96 have no notch in the bottom while the 97 to 99 have an upside down V shaped notch. Both flow about the same as the Cobra or GT40.

I agree that this was owned by someone who "thought" he knew what he was doing to make the car faster.

Welcome and have fun
Yeah the guy that built it and the kid I got it from were defiantly diffrent people. I think the guy that built it knew about fox body’s he had a bunch and sold it to his freinds son who hacked this up. The “ac delete “ and interior screws show this. Some people should never be allowed around tools. Every screw is wrong and taking off the ac lines and condenser is not deleted the ac... but hey I got a running driving broke t with no rust so ahh well.
 
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Somehow I feel that taking the hoses off the AC isn't exactly an "AC delete". At least you have some of the parts needed to fix it.
Not sure what is up with that belt tensioner either, it's been a while since I had a pushrod engine, but that thing doesn't look right.

For sure fix the o2 sensors, but with an offroad pipe, don't expect the smell to completely go away.
 
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Looks like a good driver to me that needs to be cleaned up... the painted block, painted ac compressor and painted power steering reservoir would really annoy me and would have to be delt with but mod wise the car sounds really good for a reliable driver.. I daily drive one with everything you've mentioned and more and it's been solid for many years.

from your pictures what I see :

explorer intake
belt tensioner replaced (aftermarket)
high-miler radiator hoses
throttle body coolant lines disconnected
shorty headers
charcoal canister still their but disconnected
msd ignition coil
bbk or mac fenderwell cold air intake
lx tail lights
mach 1 style hood
4 lug 03 cobra knock off wheels
short antenna

Most of the fuel smell is most likely from the charcoal canister being disconnected... I believe it runs to that vacuum line that is plugged with a screw by the explorer intake and the canister itself you can see in your pics in the lower passenger side area bolted to the frame. It's a square box

No idea why someone would want to remove o2's and their harness unless the car is tuned that way. Eitherway before you can add the harness back on the car you need to pull the passenger side kick panel and see what model ecu you have because if your o2 harness doesn't match the ecu you'll damage the ecu.
 
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I believe it runs to that vacuum line that is plugged with a screw by the explorer intake
I would agree with that. I just had to fix the line from the canister to that port on my car yesterday (end had cracked and split)


Look around, the harness for the O2's might still be there, just the O2 sensors themselves might be missing. I have found the driver side one tucked up on the k-member out of sight many times. I think it might be tied into the same loom as the oil level sensor.
 
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