But with a mild boost application and a good tune gas mileage can actually improve.
Believe it or not, my '04 V6 gets barely better mpg than my 5.0 Capri.
I like the sounds of it...RWD is nearly useless here in the winter though
"not going to happen":::
why not, i would respect it man, better fuel economy,even though by then 20-25mpg is going to be like getting 8-10mpg now..... but still the stang needs somerthing to play wiht the camaros release........
Methinks, if anything, Ford will release any such turbo'ed RWD four-banger car as a totally separate model from the Mustang. Indeed, a 300-horse turbo-four CAN power a heavy 4,000+ car ... but not as effectively or excitingly as it can power a 3,000-pound car. Shaving 500 lbs. would help, but still, they can only trim so much weight off the S197 chassis, so in order to make effective use of the low-torque/high-HP nature of a turbo-four, they're going to need a separate, far more lightweight platform to make it work. I think if they TRULY are considering a next-generation SVO kind of car, Ford would probably just be looking for something to compete more on the boy-racer level along the same lines as the WRX, Lancer Evo, and SRT-4 kinds of cars, but in RWD.
I'm not sure of the weight on the new ones, but taking away 500lbs has to bring it dam close to 3000lbs.
What did an 86 SVO weigh? That was a 14 second car with what? 220HP?
Add 80 HP + more torque to a more rigid frame, better weight distributed automobile and it "should" be in the 13's.
Most S197's weigh almost as much as most Crown Vics. An '86 SVO weighed somewhere around 2,900 to 3,000 lbs., last I read ... give or take 100 lbs ... whereas the S197's are upwards of 4,000 lbs. (especially the latest Shelby Cobra, which is a freakin' porker). Taking 500 lbs. off the current S197 platform would be VERY hard, would DEFINITELY drive up production costs/purchase price, and dropping in a motor that makes the same horsepower as a V8 but less torque is going to result in a car that doesn't feel nearly as quick off the line or around town - on the highway, yeah, but not at low speeds/RPM's.
Weight and horsepower are not directly proportionate. It's easier to take the same engine and drop it into a lighter car to make a freakin' monster (*cough* Miata *cough*) than it is to try to compensate for an existing chassis's heaviness by throwing horsepower at it. This is one of the reasons an '87-'93 Fox notch is generally more popular than a '94 or '95 GT - same motor and drivetrain, but different chassis weight. It doesn't take a whole lot to get a Fox into the low 14's/high 13's, versus trying to get an SN95 into that same range with the same motor. Just the same, it's easier to get a V8 to run 13's and 12's than it is to get a V6 to do the same thing in the same vehicle, even with a supercharger or turbo.
The new SVO sounds nice in theory, but I don't see it happening realistically in production ... if ever. And even if it did, it'd be so absurdly overpriced (just like every other car by every other company today) that only old farts and kids with filthy-rich parents will be able to afford them.
I'll be happy to stick with my broke-arsed '84.
#1. A 2008 GT weighs 3540lbs.
#2. I didn't suggest losing 500lbs,, the article SAID it would be 500lbs lighter.
#3. An 86 SVO weighed 3200lbs.
I made a mistake, an 86 only made 200hp, so the new one would have an extra 100 ponies weighing in less then an 86.
#4. A V-6 with boost is capable of going just as fast if not FASTER then a V-8.
My fingers are tired so I'll let you slide on the rest pumpkin.
Well you guys can debate all you want but you ALL know that when the CAFE thing hits, either Ford is going to have to have an ace up their sleeves for the V8s or things are going to look bad for the Mustang unless they go with a turbo 4 or 6.
Meh ... no matter how fast they can be made or what kind of numbers they run, NO four-banger will never sound as good as a V8, period.
They had the same scar in the 80's. The V-6 Turbo was the engine of choice for the future.Well you guys can debate all you want but you ALL know that when the CAFE thing hits, either Ford is going to have to have an ace up their sleeves for the V8s or things are going to look bad for the Mustang unless they go with a turbo 4 or 6.
Yeah they're going to need something good for the CAFE, I was thinking, if the ‘vette can get around 28mpg now, then it could surely meet the 35mpg standard in the next 10-12 years with a V8. Who knows maybe Ford is in the process creating a new line of V8 engines that the public doesn’t know about.
I wonder how small they can make a V8, something like a super/turbo charged 3.5L, 5 valves, and displacement on demand. I know nothing like that wont happen and it sounds expensive too, just dreaming.
I dont want a Mustang as my DD so a V8 is my only option, the thought of kids hanging those damn Fart Cans off of a 4 Cylinder Mustang just gives me chills!!!
Yeah they're going to need something good for the CAFE, I was thinking, if the ‘vette can get around 28mpg now, then it could surely meet the 35mpg standard in the next 10-12 years with a V8. Who knows maybe Ford is in the process creating a new line of V8 engines that the public doesn’t know about.
I wonder how small they can make a V8, something like a super/turbo charged 3.5L, 5 valves, and displacement on demand. I know nothing like that wont happen and it sounds expensive too, just dreaming.
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