FPS built 360ci.

[hotrodt]

Dart 360ci. Boost Motor

Need feedback on this thing.Brand new Ford Performance Solutions 360ci. OK now the goodies;Dart billet main block 4.030 bore,Sonny Bryant billet steel crank zero balance 3.5" stroke,Eagle 4340 h-beam rods 6.125 length, L-19 bolt upgrade,Ross dish pistons dish depth 0.220,hellfire rings 1/16 1/16 3/16,Victor 7721 15 degree CNCd head 2.15 intake/1.60 exhaust 50cc chambers radius seat valve job,8.85 compression,Comp Cams custom turbo grind solid roller, lift 685/685 duration 266/253 open int. 23 exh. 64.5/ close int. 63 exhaust 10.5 lobe seperation 114 degrees,Manley 4340 chrome moly swedge edge pushrods,Comp Cams solid roller lifters,T&D shaft mounted 1.7s,Aerospace components crank trigger,GZ Motorsports vaccum pump,Super Victor 351w intake. What kind of numbers are we talking about N/A guys; How much boost can this motor handle? Lend me your experience folks Thanks

 

[hotrodt]

wow 31 views and no experience

 

[FullAuto]

You're asking about a pretty high end combo on stangnet and the corral. What do you expect? Most of these people have never had anything even close to this. Hardcore50 is down so the only place you'll probably get any experienced opinions from is www.sbftech.com. All you're going to get in the forums you've posted is wild guesses.

I will say I have done business with FPS in the past and KNOW I was scammed. I will not do business with them again.

 

[hotrodt]

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Thanks full auto I really appreciate the tips.The total for this build was right around 15,000 and so far I am dissapointed in the rods used and the pins used they aren't near strong enough for the task I have set for the motor itself. Thanks Again!

 

[Rick 91GT]

Depending on the turbo size that combo should be 1000hp+.

As far as the rods go you should have any issues with the Eagles, I've pushed them past that with no issues. Would I rather have an alum or billet...yeah. The L19 bolts they need to be constantly coated in oil, if water or air gets to them it can be bad, Only reason I tend to use the ARP2000.

ARP2000®: An exclusive, hybrid-alloy developed to deliver superior strength and better fatigue properties. While 8740 and ARP2000 share similar characteristics – ARP2000 is capable of achieving clamp loads in the 215,000-220,000 psi range. ARP2000 is used widely in short track and drag racing as an up-grade from 8740 chrome moly in both steel and aluminum rods. Stress corrosion and hydrogen embrittlement are typically not a problem, providing care is taken during installation.

L19: This is a premium steel that is processed to deliver superior strength and fatigue properties. L19 is a very high strength material compared to 8740 and ARP2000 and is capable of delivering clamp loads in the 230,000-260,000 psi range. It is primarily used in short track and drag racing applications where inertia loads exceed the clamping capability of ARP2000. Like most high strength, quench and temper steels – L19 requires special care during manufacturing to avoid hydrogen embrittlement. This material is easily contaminated and subject to stress corrosion. It must be kept well-oiled and not exposed to moisture.

What type of chassis is this going in??

 

[FullAuto]

Now that you mention the rods, I must say that is exactly where FPS screwed me. I ordered a set of Eagle 4340 H beams w/ ARP 2000 bolts. I received a cheap foreign H-beam with A1 bolts in an Eagle box. I honestly didn't open anything until I got to the machine shop. My machinist builds many high end mega dollar motors for racers in several surronding states. I drive an hour to see him. He's no rookie and he's sure not cheap. He opened the box and took one glance at them and told me they weren't Eagle rods. I thought he was joking with me at first until I saw them. I knew then I'd been had. I called Troy the next day and long story short, I had to order real rods from someone else. I also own a business that sells performance parts. At the time I wasn't in with any rotating assembly parts companies (although I am now). After talking to a few other dealers that are friends of mine that also dealt with Troy, I heard similiar stories of reboxing parts.

So just something to think about.

 

[hotrodt]

360ci.

Well full auto you have definatly confirmed that you have experience with FPS, Troy is who I dealt with as well,very,very dissapointing! I know the crank is indeed a Sonny Bryant pc. It's got the name and stroke on the first throw but as far as the rods I only have the receipt confirmation. I looked at the bolts and confirmed their identity and I know the rods are h-beams but I did not look for the logo( I will now ) I have pictures posted under the members picture area. I really appreciate the help with this motor. This motor will have a Procharger F-2 for the boost and will be stabbed in the '96 GT I have now,I am shooting for 1000hp guess I better get out the checkbook and get ready to make some adjustments.I will keep you guys posted thanks again.

 

[304billet]

There was a RDI aluminum 420 stroker with carillo rods and billet crank for $15,000 on corral.net. low compression for turbo. can handle 2000hp.

I noticed that 360 and it looked nice. Don't know why they would use billet crank with eagle rods though?

u may want to consider because of all the other high end parts there to just disassemble the motor, sell the eagle rods and use oliver or carillo billet rods. then that thing would be good to 2000hp if the block is a dart IE.

I live about 40miles from FPS. They do awesome port work but I agree there have been issues with their engine build process. I know I would never let them build my motor but I did let Jay there port my TFS-R intake.

 

[hotrodt]

Screwed

I agree fellas the only way to tell for sure about those rods is to disassemble the motor and see where the craps at. I am very embarrassed about the whole ordeal to be quite frank. I had Diamond Research and Development build a 434 sbc( Can I Say sbc on here?)the build was $14,889 total, hell the labor bill was $7200 anyway this thing made 682hp./618lbs. with no vaccum pump and a 950cfm Holley that needed rejetted naturally aspirated 6 pulls in a row.That build was worth the money to me. Throw a 300 shot on that thing and better hold on. I will post a picture of that motor in the members picture section(hope I don't take a beating for that) Anyway I WILL get this motor straightned out and put the screws to it to see what she'll do. Keep you posted thanks