FRPP H/O S/C Install Tips?

Hey,

I'll be laying it down shortly for a Whipple HO kit - If you haven't looked at the instructions online read those through - a few times From what I've read it's way better viewing them in colour compared to B&W that the kit comes with.

Where did you order your kit from? Do you know if it's a Gen II blower?

Here you go
Whipple Supercharger Installation Manual

How much did you end up paying from your Local Ford Dealer?

I was looking at the Aeroforce Tech Gauge - and a Manual Boost Gauge - probably a Cobalt series. And of course a Stef's 5128 Oil separator. I'll probably go with the SOS A-Arm gauge pod as I'm not a fan of it on the dash.

klaw said:

Not sure of the final price yet - I'm picking it up after work and will confirm. Why do you think the oil separator is necessary?

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From reading on other forums it seems the '05+ outputs a lot of oil from the Drivers side valve cover this inturn goes into the intake system to get reburned and can change the air/fuel mixture etc.... Most people with FI systems recommend an oil separator. If you decide to get one just make sure you buy a hose which is rated for oil otherwise it will collapse.

Here's a topic 5 pages along about the oil separator, which I had bookmarked:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105580

Ben

2005LegendLime said:

From reading on other forums it seems the '05+ outputs a lot of oil from the Drivers side valve cover this inturn goes into the intake system to get reburned and can change the air/fuel mixture etc.... Most people with FI systems recommend an oil separator. If you decide to get one just make sure you buy a hose which is rated for oil otherwise it will collapse.

Here's a topic 5 pages along about the oil separator, which I had bookmarked:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105580

Ben

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Along with that explanation, spark blow out is an issue for some of us that have pushed the boost up a bit. Last thing you want to be doing is diagnosing a misfire that comes down to a 30.00 inline seperator. It's good piece of mind to assure you that oil in the combustion chamber is not the problem if you do develop issues..

klaw said:

Thanks for the heads up! After reading the threads I'm off to pick up the Moroso unit. Is there a decent Mustang parts store in the GTA? We have some selection here in Calgary but pricey. What companies in the US have you had the best luck with?

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Yeah I've been reading all the information I can about the Whipple before I order mine..!

There's a few places in the GTA - www.steeda.ca and www.seanhylandmotorsport.com

I have not ordered from them yet - but they seem to have okay prices. Up until this point most of the mods I've done to my car were interior apperance mods:

MGW parts
Custom floor mats (GG Bailey)
Redline shift boot..
Custom shift knob by Koolknobs.com
FRPP borla exhaust
JLT II intake - which of course is useless now that I'll be buying a whipple

Ben

We just installed one yesterday. Me and my buddy took us 10hrs. Every thing is very strait forward. Some of the hardest things...are the fuel rail where u gotta push on the rubber hose...every thing else is easy.

First things first. You NEED to move the IAT sensor to AFTER the blower! I mean, you can get away without doing it, but tuning wise, it is much safer. Basically it gives you the most accurate readings for temperature as it is after the blower and compression so it is at the hottest it will be before going into the combustion chamber. I moved mine into the intake runner on the passenger side. You need to get a piggy back wire for it to relocate it but it's pretty easy overall.

also, I'm sure you know, but you need to T into the fuel line/rail for the FP gauge. There is no shrader valve on the S197's.

What psi are you going to run... that will determing the fuel pump upgrade!

No, but if you have a blower you should change the stock one every 10k miles.

I don't know about the fuel rail adapter since I didn't do that part. As for the IAT, that's how I did mine. Mine is on the runner closest to the cabin passenger side, though. I don't really think it matters, to be truthful though. My car was only registering 109˚ max on each pull. That is without any extra cooling stuff. All the "stock" stuff from Whipple.

Here is a pic of my IAT sensor location:

since you have a 07 (like me) i will give you some tips that i got from installing mine:
i just installed mine, what to look out for..
-i did the fuel pump install one week proir to the supercharger install(glad i did, i was a tired man when all was said and done)
-i didn't take off my coolant resivor
-disregard step 17,20,21,57,58(they are for 05-06 models
-step 46 was a pain, i removed that bolt while working from the passenger side, with a small rachet and socket
-step 47 was a pain, those hoses are on their pretty good
-step 60, if you put the water neck fitting on like it is shown, you will have to grind down a timing cover bolt(allot), i did it like the instructions said, other people have just turned it 180 degrees and no grinding is needed and it works fine(wish i knew that before i installed mine) also, one of the bolts to secure the water neck to the crossover tube will have to be shortend
-when putting the new fuel crossover tube on, make sure the injectors are not installed onto the rails yet. the instructions have you put the injectors on first, but that line is so hard to get on, you will be twisting and pushing. you dont want to damage a injector while doing so. (you will know what i mean when you get to putting on that fuel hose)lol
-step 116, good luck, i made that the last part of the install. that hose is so hard to push into the supplied hose.
-step 141, says to use 2 bolts and 2 nuts. well the nuts were no problem to use because the car already had 2 bolts on it. the part where it says to use the 2 bolts... well my car did not have 2 holes for those bolts, it had 2 smaller bolts already on it, so you will need 2 more nuts(the bolts are smaller then the other two, you might have like 3 threads available for the 2 extra nuts you have to buy)
-adding length to all of the sensor wires was a long PITA. just take your time
-I did the install all by myself except for: i needed an extra person to apply pressure to the fuel pump while hammering in the lock ring, and i needed a extra person to apply pressure to the tensioner while getting the belt on.
-make sure you upload the ford tune before you start the car to check for coolant leaks, top off coolant...ect. the instructions might say to check for leaks before they tell you to upload the tune.
in the end, i was glad it was over. i had such a headache from getting no sleep. i installed a cobalt wideband and boost gauge. i bought the 8psi pulley and am seeing 9 psi. my afr at WOT is 11.2-11.3. I am going to get a custome tune soon and see what she puts out on the dyno.
good luck