Who are you referring to that doesn't like them? Excellent, cost-effective tuning hardware - multi-channel, data-logging, all the bells & whistles needed. The software is separate completely and is also pretty great (Binary Editor). I'm not sure what there is not to like, I'd be curious. There's megasquirt guys who are kind of a cult, and carb-lovers which I can't quite understand in 2020 (even old 60's clunkers are going to EFI) but I can't think of any rational (i.e. non-religious) reason one would hate the Moates hardware.