Geting Butt Kicked By Z28!?

darkside03gt · May 14, 2012

If you want to beat up on LS1 camaros get yourself some forced induction and dont look back. Make sure it has a good tune from someone who knows what they are doing and you will never have to worry about ending up with a window in your block.

The LS series of engines is bad ass but they are far from un-beatable in the camaro. Now in the vette thats a whole other story due to their lower weight, better gearing, and better aerodynamics. With those cars you need to be making at least 65 more hp to stand a chance.

72 fastback · May 14, 2012

I threw a kenne belle intercooled kit on my bone stock o2 gt. I been driving the hell out of it for a year now and loving it.

Winters98GT · May 14, 2012

slayerripkdc said:
I noticed in your sig that you had a C5z with 435 to the wheels. Was that with Full exhaust?

Stock, it dynoed 365-368rwhp(rated at 405hp). With headers, it dynoed 383-388rwhp. With a cam, it dynoed 435rwhp. Stock heads, etc. The LS1 is not much different. Two of my buddies have the same cam, same mods as me and dynoed 428rwhp, and 437rwhp with the same cam in their LS1 c5 vettes with stock heads. The 243(LS6) and 241(LS1) heads don't make much difference once you add bolt ons and a cam given that you don't touch the heads. Here is the idle clip from my C5Z. I've got all the dynoes if you want to shoot me a PM

slayerripkdc · May 14, 2012

Winters98GT said:
Stock, it dynoed 365-368rwhp(rated at 405hp). With headers, it dynoed 383-388rwhp. With a cam, it dynoed 435rwhp. Stock heads, etc. The LS1 is not much different. Two of my buddies have the same cam, same mods as me and dynoed 428rwhp, and 437rwhp with the same cam in their LS1 c5 vettes with stock heads. The 243(LS6) and 241(LS1) heads don't make much difference once you add bolt ons and a cam given that you don't touch the heads. Here is the idle clip from my C5Z. I've got all the dynoes if you want to shoot me a PM

Sounds mean! I want one bad! Will a C5 M6 ls1 hang with the zo6 if it had full exhaust stock cams?

74brnc · May 14, 2012

interesting problem, something to consider, was the camaro stock or modified. After reading all replies how much are you willing to spend? myself I would go with the long tubes, full computer tuneup/ dial in, gears 4:10s an a competition clutch with suspension to make it hook up. Remember the old adage "Any thing you can do I can do better"

Winters98GT · May 15, 2012

slayerripkdc said:
Will a C5 M6 ls1 hang with the zo6 if it had full exhaust stock cams?

No, unless it has 4.10 gears. The C5z06 has an m12 transmission, making the overall gearing equal to a M6 with 3.73 or 3.90 gears. Also, the Z is lighter, and will have a slight power advantage over a C5 with exhaust. You would need a full bolt on C5 to hang with a C5Z. My best time stock, on the stock tires without any mods was a 12.2@115mph.

dimaiox1 · May 15, 2012

Thats a nice Z I have a C5 coupe the prices are down on them now you can even get a z06 for 15 grand if you look in the right place. The cool thing about the coupe how ever is you can take the targa top off the Z is a solid fix roof. But they look bad ass. Supossidly if you put the power train from the Z06 into the coupe the coupe is a much more aero dynamic car and you can reach better speed using that body. This is why corvette racing uses the coupe body for the C5R race car.

Winters98GT · May 16, 2012

dimaiox1 said:
Thats a nice Z I have a C5 coupe the prices are down on them now you can even get a z06 for 15 grand if you look in the right place. The cool thing about the coupe how ever is you can take the targa top off the Z is a solid fix roof. But they look bad ass. Supossidly if you put the power train from the Z06 into the coupe the coupe is a much more aero dynamic car and you can reach better speed using that body. This is why corvette racing uses the coupe body for the C5R race car.

Yeah, I sold mine for not much more two years ago with a built rear, gears, cam, bolt ons, etc. It was a blast to drive. It is very debatable on the targa vs. FRC(fixed roof coupe, 99-00FRC, 01-04z06) on which is more aero friendly. My C6 is a targa and I can still put the top in the back with my nitrous bottle, cage, fire extinguisher, etc. Pretty neat. The reason for the debate is a couple of pretty fast FRC C5's. This one is shooting for 260mph in the standing mile and is over 2200hp right now. Hinson purposefully picked the FRC over the targa for high speed runs, and they know a lot about doing it.

HinsonSuperCars;1580330476 said:
Top Speed Corvette C5 Z06
Built and Tuned by Hinson Motorsports

4-27-2012
We have arrived at the Ohio Mile!

3-23-2012
Unfortunately, we had to postpone the trip to Texas. We simply ran out of time to test before the race, and that is a long haul to ride untested. So we're planning to attend the Ohio Mile, which has 4 events this year. We'll be tested and ready.

3/23/2012
New numbers are in!

2,246 HP @ 7,800 RPM
34 psi

3-20-2012
We made our first pulls on the engine dyno! We made 1,870 horsepower on low timing and 27psi. We're turning up the boost and timing tomorrow. We'll run out of injector around 2,400 horsepower. Special thanks to Young's Performance, Lane Culver, Butler Performance, Ryan Carpenter, Buddy Anderson, and Noah Mitros for making this happen so quickly.

3-20-2012
We are headed for the Texas Mile on March 23-25! We are thrashing to complete the project now (3/20/12). We ran 224 mph on low boost with our previous build. We're looking to beat our own record and eventually compete for the world record for the fastest piston powered car. This new car is a combination of C5 and C6 parts resulting in extreme performance. We have built on the information gained from our previous car, and this ride is looking to push the boundaries for standing mile racing.

Build Specs

Shortblock
427ci RHS Aluminum Tall Deck Block (Assembly & Machining by Butler Performance)
Callies Ultra Center Counter Weight Billet Crankshaft
Aluminum Connecting Rods
Diamond Pistons
Custom High Capacity Oil Pan from Doug Lee Engineuity

Top End
TEA Trickflow 245cc Cylinder Heads
Crower Roller Rocker Arms
Comp Pushrods
Custom Comp Solid Roller Camshaft
GM EFI Carb Style Intake Manifold

Turbo System
Custom Turbo Setup with 118mm Turbo
5" Downpipe
Custom Air/Water Intercooler
Tial Blow Off Valves
Tial Wastegate

Computer & Fuel
Holley EFI Dominator System
Bosch 160 lb Injectors
FuelLab Fuel Pumps & Regulator

Transmission & Rear Differential
RPM TR6060 Transmission
RPM ZR1 Differential with Quaiffe LSD
SPEC Twin Disk Clutch

Roll Cage & Body
25.5 Roll Cage
Custom Adjustable Rear Wing

Wheels & Tires
True Forged Wheels 18x12 & 18x10
Hoosier R6 Tires 345/35/18 & 275/35/18

This is a custom tall deck 427ci solid roller engine built in partnership with Butler Performance. The guys at Butler Performance handle our big cubic engine builds. These RHS blocks are great when they're in capable hands of a great machine shop. Give us a call to help plan your next race engine build.

Getting ready for the engine dyno.

Amazing craftsmanship by the guys at Hinson Motorsports.

Shameless plug for our friends at RHS & Total Engine Airflow/TrickFlow. We stock and use these great manufacturers for our personal and customer use. Let us know how we can help you assemble your next combination of parts!

RHS intake spacers for the tall deck build.

Forced air enters here. Intake is a GM piece with custom fuel rail solution by HINSON Motorsports. An intake elbow plate has been bolted down to the top. We will custom fabricate the elbow to work on this engine.

A billet alternator bracket built by Lane here at the shop. Got amps?

Custom water plates for -12 AN cooling connections. Built in house at Hinson Motorsports.

Custom high capacity oil pan with trap doors for fluid control.

Custom external oil pressure regulator on race oil pan.

Amazing craftsmanship by Buddy & Lane at HINSON Motorsports. Great work guys!

118mm Turbo - It's bigger than you think.

Don't get sucked in

5" Downpipe.

Lots of boost = Twin BOV.

Funny car cage for driver protection. Still under progress when picture was taken.

This is an all business interior featuring a 25.5 cage for protection.

Intercooler and engine water tanks in the trunk. All fabricated in house.

Winters98GT · May 16, 2012

Running a TR6060 and ZR1 differential with Quaiffe LSD. Thanks to RPM Transmissions for their support on the initial build in 2011.

SPEC Twin disk from last year's C6 race car. Thank you SPEC for the continued support in 2012.

High rise hood to clear the intake elbow.

Custom adjustable rear wing.

Rear wing support for additional drag and down force. Braces supported by custom structure built behind the rear bumper.

True Forged 18" wheels.

Looking to put a "2" in front of that horsepower quote.

Old sticker from previous life as a single turbo 76mm. Kinda funny in today's form..[/QUOTE]

slayerripkdc · May 16, 2012

What does 2000hp feel like????

Deleted member 38176 · May 16, 2012

slayerripkdc said:
What does 2000hp feel like????

You know how when you're sitting in a jet-liner and you're just about ready to take off, then the pilot hits full power and you're thrown back into your seat? I think it's a little like that......just more violent lol

Winters98GT · May 16, 2012

slayerripkdc said:
What does 2000hp feel like????

Dunno, 1500hp is the most I have been in, and it was fast. Very smooth though, because you are not hooking even at 150mph usually. Never been in a lambo in the 1500-1700rwhp though. Event at 700rwhp-1000rwhp range with the paddle shifter they are very violent cars with their dual clutch setups. The hit so hard when shifting gears. It's really hard describe the feeling of a modified lambo at 700-100rwhp vs a modified Ford GT, Vette, etc. It is just a completely different feeling. My car does 0-172mph in 15 seconds. A maxed out, on kill mode UGR lambo will do about 210-220mph in 15 seconds. World of difference.

san~man · May 17, 2012

If this keeps going OT, I'm moving it to talk.

dimaiox1 · May 17, 2012

Man that vette is awsome. Some day I would love to build mine into something like this. So farI did a LS2 roll cage Z06 brakes with the 14 inch rotors Pfadt suspension Corsa Exhaust . I Hand built some of the body mods. To much to list LOL . I dont race mine its more of a street car.

Deleted member 38176 · May 17, 2012

Winters98GT said:

Mmmmm boobs

Winters98GT · May 17, 2012

dimaiox1 said:
Man that vette is awsome. Some day I would love to build mine into something like this. So farI did a LS2 roll cage Z06 brakes with the 14 inch rotors Pfadt suspension Corsa Exhaust . I Hand built some of the body mods. To much to list LOL . I dont race mine its more of a street car.

Good looking c5! Like the rear bumper and wheels. Never did that on my rear bc it was black, but looks good on silver/red/yellow cars

sneaky98gt · May 18, 2012

This thread went from

to

In just a few posts.

Well done.

dimaiox1 · May 18, 2012

LOL Starting to look like corvette forum now LOL But at the end of the day we are all into one thing CARS and speed. And DAMN I love that red Z

Stumbaugh · May 18, 2012

Ive gotta get me a lambo....

slayerripkdc · May 18, 2012

A Lambo would be nice but I found a few Viper GTS's in my area in the 20k range . They are no Lambo but for the price and the shock effect you get when people see them they are close to the same level. One day lol

Stumbaugh said:
Ive gotta get me a lambo....

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