Giving you tuning guys a heads up...

[BlownFiveLiter]

I'm going to be pestering the hell out of you soon. My TwEECer RT is on the way.

 

[final5-0]

1-800 Call Wes

Grady

 

[Stanger007]

"BEEEP BEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEEEP I'm sorry the number you dialed has been disconnected"​

LOL.

Welcome to the fold. What size injectors are ya running?

Wes

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Ha, I'm still running a completely stock fuel system with the mods in my sig. Some 30lb injectors, a 190 or 255 pump, and 90mm LMAF are on the agenda for my next paycheck.

 

[Stanger007]

Ha, I'm still running a completely stock fuel system with the mods in my sig. Some 30lb injectors, a 190 or 255 pump, and 90mm LMAF are on the agenda for my next paycheck.

Man your car sounds nearly identical to sage2k's car. We put a lightning meter on his car this weekend - the stock maf was pegged at 5v around 4400rpm.

I like the 255 pump.

I agree on going at least 30lb on the injectors - his 24s are pretty much ragged edge.

If time allows, we're going to drop my spare wideband on his car next weekend and nail down the WOT tuning with the new MAF, hit me up for a good MAF transfer for it - there are quite a few floating around.

Wes

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Well, that should hopefully make the learning curve a little better, since you're already nailing down the tune on a similar setup. I still need to pick up a wideband myself. I just need money

 

[Blackened302]

very cool, man--enjoy it!

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

What did I get myself into here? This thing is all Greek to me! And OMG was the computer a PITA to put back into the kick panel!

 

[Stanger007]

haha the dang PCM.

I find it easiest to put the PCM back in the white bracket (or as far as it will go w/ the twEECer) and THEN connecting the harness to it.

Do it enough times and you'll have it down to a few minute job to r/r it. :-D

So what are your first twEECs???

Wes

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

I took the white bracket out. It just would not go in otherwise. I tried prying it, forcing it, and gave up. It's got a rag wedged in behind it so it's not bouncing around. I'll come up with a better system later... lol

I really haven't done anything yet. Loaded up a J4J1 tune, and used the injector slopes from the T4M0 tune because I'm still running my factory 19lb injectors. Took it for a drive and it actually seems to have less power than it did prior to the tune, although it does idle a little more smoothly now. I need to read more before I try to do anything else, and also get some sort of power inverter, so my laptop will stay working longer, and I don't need to run an extension cord to the car for AC power.

 

[final5-0]

I took the white bracket out. It just would not go in otherwise. I tried prying it, forcing it, and gave up. It's got a rag wedged in behind it so it's not bouncing around. I'll come up with a better system later... lol

I really haven't done anything yet. Loaded up a J4J1 tune, and used the injector slopes from the T4M0 tune because I'm still running my factory 19lb injectors. Took it for a drive and it actually seems to have less power than it did prior to the tune, although it does idle a little more smoothly now. I need to read more before I try to do anything else, and also get some sort of power inverter, so my laptop will stay working longer, and I don't need to run an extension cord to the car for AC power.

Matt

I would also load in the offsets from the t4m0 for those 19's

Since you now have slope values that do not equal .........
You are gonna have to play with things to find a breakpoint that works
well for your combo.

For a starting point.....
You may wanna just load in the t4m0 bp value

btw ... All this inj stuff is explained in EA

Yes ... a small loss of power is usually a by product of moving to the j4j1
The spark is less aggressive on the j4j1 than the t4m0
You can easily recover the power with a bit of spark tweecing

Looks like you are starting to have some fun

Don't try to learn all this stuff in one day :Word:

It took me a whole week

Grady

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Grady, for the first time ever, since I've basically avoided the tuning forums in the way of trying to offer any advice, I have no idea what you just said to me.

I need to do some more reading.

 

[Stanger007]

When you copy over the injectors, be sure to copy over:

Scalar: Injector High Slope
Scalar: Injector Low Slope
Scalar: Injector Breakpoint
Scalar: Injector Minimum Pulsewidth
Function: Injector Offset vs Battery Voltage
Table: Injector Timing

The MAF transfer is a tad different, as is the High Speed Fuel Enrichment.

If you download a free copy of BinaryEditor, you can do a compare on T4M0 to J4J1 to see what exactly is different -- http://eecanalyzer.webhop.net/

Good luck!

Wes

 

[Stanger007]

PM me your email address or hit me up on IM and I'll send you some spark tables that should work well for your setup.

Wes

 

[final5-0]

Grady, for the first time ever, since I've basically avoided the tuning forums in the way of trying to offer any advice, I have no idea what you just said to me.

I need to do some more reading.

Matt

I'm shocked
and
Deeply hurt

I thought everybody reads every post I put up
especially
In the tuning forum

Allow me to elaborate

The offsets we talked about are a function named .......
Injector Offset vs Battery Voltage

The breakpoint is a scalar named ......
fuel_injector_breakpoint

Injector tuning is accomplished V E R Y differently in these two pcm's

You see the slope values being equal in the j4j1 which some have
said makes the breakpoint null and void

You see the offset values being about 200% greater on the t4m0

We need to bring up these things due to you using inj's other than
the default 24's you find in the j4j1

IMHO ... if you are gonna do unequal slope values with the 19's ...
You're gonna have to then deal with a breakpoint
and
You should start your injector tuning with the 19lb inj offset value

btw ... DO NOT try to take info to heart about injector tuning from
any Fox threads you might find on the forums as they are totally in a
different dimension than our pcm :Word:

Actually Matt ... I'd focus on CBAZA threads only about ALL parameters
in the pcm so you don't get misled by info that does not work
with your 94-95 pcm

We have talked about this subject over the years here so you should
be able to find some info and details on injector tuning in the tuning
or tech forms.

Some of that stuff goes way back
before they even started the tuning forum
and for that stuff
You'll find it of course ... in the Tech Forum

Hope this makes it more easy for you to relate
and
find all the details

Grady