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Imatk

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So I just got some Global West subframe connectors put on my 91 Fox and I have to say that it's like driving a new car!!

Joe, Ronny and the crew at Chicane Sport Tuning in Torrance hooked me up. I was actually a little hesitant just because of the cost of the subframes but I have absolutely no regrets wish I would have done it ten years ago!

Just figured I'd share
 

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I've been telling people for years to use the Global west connectors.
But nobody listens
 

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where is a link to these subframe connectors you speak of. ive found some pics of them but im not sure if they are the same ones that you got
 

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http://www.globalwest.net/mustang%2079-98.htm#Subframe%20connectors:

You have to scroll pretty far down to see them. Buying the complete set prewelded saves alot of time and money.
 
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how exactly does it change it....like just rigidity and handling, or does it like take bumps better?

im debating
 
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which model was used on each of your setups? Which #? Thanks...
 
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how much do they charge to install them.. i live like ten mins from torrance
 
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Which type of theirs did you buy?
 

nonglossjason

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whats better about these than sayyyyy maximum motorsports? sorry i dont know which to buy. And how much did you pay to have them installed?
 
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bump...still waiting for reply
 

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I wanna hear about this
 

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Global west subs have been around for a really long time, long before this message board even existed. People here tend to want big name products like Kenny Brown and Maximum motorsports, and they overlook products like these.

These are very strong, and are full length, if i remember correctly they also even get welded to the front of the torque box. Another good point, you don't need to pay to have the whole kit welded, which is a very lot of time for a shop.

Do i have them? No, but my car had subs on it when i bought it. But i know plenty of people with them. I wish i had them.

Nothing wrong with other brands, but you do have choices.
 

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I will have to look into them
 
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Which set of subframes though? He had like 4 different models. Just curious, because Im close to getting some soon, and Id like to get the best for my money without having to spend a fortune.
 

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rigamaroles said:
Which set of subframes though? He had like 4 different models. Just curious, because Im close to getting some soon, and Id like to get the best for my money without having to spend a fortune.
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Just something to keep in mind... i personally dont like the round tube subframe connector design. some people do. I got the MM XL full length ones.


XL Series Full Length Connectors
New!! The XL Series Full-length Subframe Connectors are now available exclusively from MM. We have improved on the original MM Full-length Subframe Connector design with these extra-long, extra-strong subframe connectors.
Maximum Motorsports created the first "Full-length" subframe connectors many years ago. This is yet another MM product that others have copied. Beware of the copycats—MM's are still the best quality. We have now improved on our original design by increasing the length and height of the connector tube. The resulting XL Series connector is much stiffer than any other subframe connector.

The MM Full-Length Connectors stiffen the chassis far more than our standard connectors. The taller tubing of the new XL Series creates a connector that is 95% stiffer than the standard subframe connector. The XL connector tubing is 53% stiffer than our previous Full-length subframe connectors. Beware of connectors from companies who lack the engineering expertise to design their own products. Some have copied our previous design. The new XL Series connectors are 53% stiffer than those copies.

The increased length, method of attachment, and stiffer tubing of the XL Series connector means there is no need for jacking rails. Because of the strength of our tubing; you can lift the car by placing a jack anywhere along the length of the connector tube!

The new XL Series Full-length Subframe Connectors extend from the rear lower control arm attachment point on the rear subframe all the way up to the firewall. This provides substantially more weld area between the connector and the chassis than other connectors. At 65", the extra length, increased number of attachment points, and extra height in the tubing make this the stiffest subframe connector available.

The XL Series Full-length Subframe Connectors are made of 1.5" x 2" x .083" wall thickness rectangular tubing. The thinner wall tubing is used to lessen the weight, while the taller dimension increases stiffness by 95% over our standard connectors.

We add reinforcing plates at each bend to prevent the flexing that would otherwise occur with the thinner wall tubing.

We seal the tubing by welding on end caps to prevent moisture from getting inside the connector and rusting them from the inside out.

Our connectors are custom shaped to hug the floor pan of your Mustang for maximum ground clearance.

The MM XL Series Full-Length Subframe Connectors have seat braces that are to be welded to the connector tube during installation. This customizes the fitment to match the car. This is the best method to account for variations in the floor pan.

Either a powder coated or bare steel finish is available.
When we started designing the XL Series connectors, we looked at quite a number of Mustangs. We carefully designed the XL Series connectors to not hang any lower than the lowest part of the car—the exhaust system. The XL Series are no closer to the ground than the stock mufflers, and match the minimum ground clearance of the OEM Ford connectors on the late model SN95 convertibles. At no point along their length do the XL Series connectors hang lower than the exhaust system.

1996-98 Cobras will require modifications to the transmission crossmember mounting flanges. See supplemental information about this in the consumer instructions that can be viewed here.

NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may be inaccurate to some shipping destinations due to irregular size. You will be contacted with accurate shipping cost after your order is placed.

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Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1979-93 HT, bare MMFL-1B $119.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1979-93 HT, bare steel NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may be...
Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1979-93 HT, PC MMFL-1PC $149.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1979-93 HT, powdercoated black NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may...
Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1983-93 Conv, bare MMFL-2B $119.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1983-93 Convertible, bare steel NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may...
Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1983-93 Conv, PC MMFL-2PC $149.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1983-93 Convertible, powdercoated black NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line...
Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1994-04, bare MMFL-3B $119.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1994-04, bare steel NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may be...
Subframe Connectors, XL Full Length, 1994-04, PC MMFL-3PC $149.00

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XL Series Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1994-04, powdercoated black NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe connectors provided by on-line ordering may be...
Subframe Connectors, Full Length, 1984-92, PC MMFL-4PC $189.00

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Full Length Subframe Connectors, 1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII, powdercoated black (These do not come with cross braces) NOTE: Full Length Subframe Connectors always ship separately. Shipping cost for full length subframe...



Not trying to jack the thread, just showing dude the difference in MM's and Global west so he can make a good decision on what he wants
 

nonglossjason

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i am undecisive, how much does it cost to intall. What are the benifits for the money
 

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Jason, Subs cost 180 install 160, best bang for your buck mod on a fox better than gears, i noticed a little difference when i put the coil over on, then when i finally got my subs two weeks later it was a whole new world they are that good
 

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nonglossjason said:
i am undecisive, how much does it cost to intall. What are the benifits for the money
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They are designed to increase structural rigidity. They tie the front and rear sub frames together. They are almost a nessesity with a high torque engine that will put strain on your chassis. Your 4 eye (along with the aero noses) are of unibody construction. its kinda like 2 horseshoes with the open ends facing each other. the subframe connectors make the 2 horseshoes into 1 solid unit, kinda like having a full frame car.



Cliffs notes: they strengthen your chassis, keep the car solid when cornering, and helps prevent body twist in hard launching.
 

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bryce93lx said:
Jason, Subs cost 180 install 160, best bang for your buck mod on a fox better than gears, i noticed a little difference when i put the coil over on, then when i finally got my subs two weeks later it was a whole new world they are that good
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I think im in for a world of change. my car has been down for 4 years and was stock when i took it apart. now it has a 6 point cage, full length subframes, torque box reinforcements, and mega bite Jr LCA's. and its all getting put on at once.
 

nonglossjason

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well thanks guys, but why is it so much to install? they just weld them in right?
 
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