Got an estimate for bodywork, what do you think?

FallujahMedic · Dec 21, 2005

I got an estimate today from a local Mustang restorer for sheetmetal work. They said labor would be about $65 an hour and gave the following time estimates for the repairs

(the repairs being cutting out and welding in new sheetmetal)

Floorpans (full length) 10 hrs per side
toeboards 1.5 - 3 hrs per side
quarterpanels (full) 10 hrs per side
tail light panel 3 hrs
trunk floor 5 hrs
cowl vent repair 6 - 12 hrs
radiator support
and fender apron 4 hrs

if my math is right thats 70 hrs total and without tax, that comes to $4550.00

What do you think? Seems a tad high to me, BUT they have been in business for quite a long time and do have a good reputation. I had a previous quote from a small body shop in orlando that was less than half this amount, but I have been concerned about service after the fact from them.

iskwezm · Dec 21, 2005

seems like the hours are "padded" a little

RMODEL65 · Dec 21, 2005

it seems reasonable, i go to school for collision repair there is alot more than bodywork leads on to be.this is probably a consertive estimate on labor also. i would say

69 Rustang · Dec 22, 2005

I don't think it is too unreasonable. There are some things that are a bit high and others that are low. The labor rate is what surprises me. I am used to seeing $65-75 in the Bay Area, but here in SoCal you can find shops at $36. I am surprised that Florida is that expensive.

65up2d8 · Dec 22, 2005

You're mentioning the major jobs that need to be done on one of these cars in fairly bad shape. I would venture to say that's a pretty reasonable quote, IMO. The cowl vent repair seems especially reasonable based on what I have been told the job entails. Good luck.

Timmy · Dec 22, 2005

6-12 hours the cowl seems high to me because of that fact on a 69, it unbolts. No spot welds to drill out.

Tim

69 Rustang · Dec 22, 2005

Timmy said:
6-12 hours the cowl seems high to me because of that fact on a 69, it unbolts. No spot welds to drill out.

Tim

Not exactly true. The top cover unbolts and comes off, but that still leaves very limited acccess to the bottom corners of the cowl area where the rust likely would be. It would be extremely difficult to weld in new metal down in the cowl on a 69 without some cutting. Granted, with the top cover off, the cosmetics are not a big concern so it would be an easier repair than an earlier model. Depends how bad it is how long it would take, but I still think the 6-12 range is not unreasonable--how many hours would a early model take for a cowl leak repair? R&I windshield, R&I the top cover, R&I both fenders, drill out a bunch of spot welds, re-weld, etc. It would be a lot of work.

MustangMatt1966 · Dec 22, 2005

is that including materials??? or are those not needed???

FallujahMedic · Dec 22, 2005

Thats the price including parts. I have them all here ready to go. About the cowl, the big deal with it is that there are no replacement pieces available for it so any repair panels have to be cutom fabricated, hence the longer time estimate.

lauras70mach1 · Dec 22, 2005

The going rate for bodywork is around $48 an hour, so the rate is a bit high. I think the time estimates are good, if not a bit low for some. I've seen quarter panels with 24 hours into them. I have close to 80 hours into full floorpans, toe boards and torque boxes on my '70 (but I am somewhat limited tool-wise, no plasma cutter or anything like that) and they're not done.

RMODEL65 · Dec 22, 2005

body work is around 60 an hour here in ga!

MustangMatt1966 · Dec 22, 2005

FallujahMedic said:
Thats the price including parts. I have them all here ready to go. About the cowl, the big deal with it is that there are no replacement pieces available for it so any repair panels have to be cutom fabricated, hence the longer time estimate.

where in central florida do you live??? i also live in central florida (orlando area) and have used a few body men locally...just curious who exactly u are using

FallujahMedic · Dec 22, 2005

I'm actually in North Central Florida, outside of Gainesville. The shop I looked into is in Jacksonville, Don Barry Mustang. I was impressed at the number of Mustangs in their shop, everything from mild to wild.

MustangMatt1966 · Dec 22, 2005

sounds like a very reputable shop.....i def. like jacksonville, i was there for the super bowl, great fun.....

10secgoal · Dec 23, 2005

The thing that sucks for us is there is no money to be made by shops doing work for us. This is why the cars go in for paint and sit forever. A good bodyman can knock out a good 2k of work a day, as opposed to 3-5k for weeks worth of work on a classic. The numbers are by the book, but insurances don't pay that. That is "their rate", but insurances get fat discounts. Averages I have seen are generally about 65 for bodywork, and 75 for mechanical(putting in a new rear end after huge accident).I wouldn't be too scared of the other shop because they are cheaper. see if you can poke around a little and see what their work looks like before you commit.

dennis112 · Dec 23, 2005

No matter where you choose to get the job done, be sure to get estimates of all the work to be done in writing.

1966conv · Dec 23, 2005

In comparison to a 66, those hours are too low for the quarters, the floor pans, and cowls. Good luck and I hope his hours are close.

thehueypilot · Dec 23, 2005

Why don't you do it yourself and save big $$$$$.

allcarfan · Dec 23, 2005

thehueypilot said:
Why don't you do it yourself and save big $$$$$.

Agreed. At least...do..SOME of it.

MustangMatt1966 · Dec 23, 2005

allcarfan said:
Agreed. At least...do..SOME of it.

maybe he doesnt have the skills nor resources to do it????

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