Got myself a mustang...

BuickNick · Nov 24, 2005

Hello everybody!
Got a good deal on a 94 GT. It's an auto, which is pretty lame. This thing is GUTLESS. Engine is stock except for flowmasters. It's my daily driver, I want to get it mid 14's... for now anyway. Engine wise, what am I lookin at to get this running that? I plan on pulling the motor in the spring for a rebuild, it's got 107k on it, and the last kid that owned it didn't take care of it at all. I've got a set of stock 351 heads that are on a 302 I have in the garage. So plan on using those with a good port/polish. I'm on a budjet so nothing crazy. Will chip, cam, those heads, air intake get it in the mid 14's? Intake manifolds are expensive, so I'm hoping to stay stock for now.
I'm gonna do a shift kit soon and a ratchet shifter. How bad are 3.73's on the highway with overdrive? mileage?

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2005

WELCOME TO :SNSign:

Nice looking car, man. I don't know many that use those kind of heads ..... so I can't help you there. From what I can catch ..... the guys on here are saying 4.10's are better for the automatics. Since it's a DD, I don't know ..... it's totally up to you.

SeventyMach1 · Nov 25, 2005

[SM1 taking another gander]

What wheels are those? I like them.

wytstang · Nov 25, 2005

Welcome......gears, off road h pipe, under drive pulleys, advance timing to 14* running premuim fuel, with a complete tune up, short belt, and icing down your intake at the track just before running. This will net you around 14.5 assuming good weather and traction are there. A good driver will get you there as well...

Green 94 5.0 · Nov 25, 2005

as far as the intake goes, a cheap alternative to something aftermarket is the explorer intake. (same intake as the tubular gt40 just with a cast upper)

RIO5.0 · Nov 25, 2005

Welcome to SN....
I agree, they're pathetic powerwise when stock. not exactly what you were expecting......Your plan will have it running more like a GT should...
On the intake, since you'll have it torn down for those heads, send the lower out for porting...its a major bottleneck on these motors...Look up Tmoss in the search....Best 115.00 you'll spend if your plan is to keep that factory intake....It'll do wonders for breathing....

final5-0 · Nov 25, 2005

BuickNick said:
Hello everybody!
Got a good deal on a 94 GT. It's an auto, which is pretty lame. This thing is GUTLESS. Engine is stock except for flowmasters. It's my daily driver, I want to get it mid 14's... for now anyway. Engine wise, what am I lookin at to get this running that? I plan on pulling the motor in the spring for a rebuild, it's got 107k on it, and the last kid that owned it didn't take care of it at all. I've got a set of stock 351 heads that are on a 302 I have in the garage. So plan on using those with a good port/polish. I'm on a budjet so nothing crazy. Will chip, cam, those heads, air intake get it in the mid 14's? Intake manifolds are expensive, so I'm hoping to stay stock for now.
I'm gonna do a shift kit soon and a ratchet shifter. How bad are 3.73's on the highway with overdrive? mileage?

Welcome to our forum and congrats on getting the Stang

Yes ... A stock auto is sooooooo slow

It will get quicker with some mods

Here are a few of my thoughts

You will have a better than 90% chance of throwing your money away on a chip if you are talking about one of those ... off the shelf chips.
Hold off on a chip until you get a good bit more air flow going for you.
Then at that time ... Pro tune it with a chip or Self Tune it with a Tuner!

The mod that will make the biggest difference for sure is ... GEARS!
I'd go for a ratio of no less that 373's and most auto boys go 410's.

Get rid of the stock 4 cat mid pipe.

A home made cai is a nice gain for the buck spent

Pulleys will give a nice gain for the buck spent.

At this time a tb or maf is not gonna give you any gain.

An ignition will give no or tiny gain so don't waste $$$ there

Roller Rockers is one of those mods that I think is way, way over rated.
Not enough gain for the buck spent.

Now about the trans ...........................

I saw the comment you made about the car being an auto

A tc & shift kit will make it so much better

however

NOTHING you do to it will make the car drive like a stick trans car

Having said that ... before you spend any money on the trans ... decide about moving to a T-5 or keeping the auto.

Grady

wytstang · Nov 25, 2005

5.0's love spray

95COBRA241 · Nov 25, 2005

Welcome to :SNSign:

First thing is to change gears to 4.10's. You won't regret it. Next, I would add an o/r h or x pipe...you alraedy have the flowmasters. I would then replace the intake or as suggested get the stock one ported. I would leave the cam alone for now.

stevinwayne · Nov 25, 2005

get a small stall and some 3.73s or 4.10s along full exhaust (long tubes, h or x pipe, catback) and a cobra intake manifold and you'll probably be high 13s low 14s

Dan95-5.0 · Nov 25, 2005

because it's a aode you should have 3.27's.

get a converter and a shiftkit from Edge Racing. 3000 stall feels awesome.

3.73's are ok if you plan on alot of highway.

pulleys was a great mod that i really felt.

if your looking for a cheap "only buy once" intake, look into the professional products typhoon. i bought one for $240 canadian almost brand new with injectors, fuel rails, hiring harness etc.

i'm also interested in what wheels those are. i like them

droptopford 5 0 · Nov 25, 2005

Dan95-5.0 said:
because if the aode you should have 3.27's.

my 94 aod-e came with 2.83's...

tmoss · Nov 25, 2005

RIO5.0 said:
..Look up Tmoss in the search....Best 115.00 you'll spend if your plan is to keep that factory intake....It'll do wonders for breathing....

Thank you, Andy - Nick, take some time to look over my website and you'll get lots of info on intakes - not just ported stock lowers. Be sure tp make it into the photo section for results and dynos.

mytight95 · Nov 26, 2005

I will VOUCH for Tom's work as well...... on a mostly stock motor his intake will make some serious torque, which makes it a blast to drive on the street with a set of gears.........

jason

94GTLaserRC · Nov 26, 2005

If that Mustang is your daily driver, I would not start modding it except for gears, exhaust, and maybe a CAI.

If you start doing much more, and you cant afford any downtime, I would get a different DD and mod the stang...Gas prices are high, and the cars need good fuel.

Welcome to SN.!!
RC

tmoss · Nov 26, 2005

94GTLaserRC said:
If that Mustang is your daily driver, I would not start modding it except for gears, exhaust, and maybe a CAI.

Welcome to SN.!!
RC

Have to disagree on the CAI part RC - it's almost as much as porting services (on any lower) and won't give the same hit for the buck. The stock CAI with a K&N is good to over 300HP - Steeda had that recommendation on their site for years.

wytstang · Nov 26, 2005

Good to know Tmoss drop in k&n it is....

illwood · Nov 26, 2005

wytstang said:
Good to know Tmoss drop in k&n it is....

I didn't know Yoda was on :SNSign:

That's a nice looking GT you have there (and I agree about the wheels looking good). You pretty much have alll the advice you need for now.

dstanggt50 · Nov 26, 2005

After owning both an aod (87gt) and the 5 spd in the 95, I would recommend either swapping out your auto for a stick, or get a stall, shift kit, and 4.10's, or 3.73 if its a daily driver. For the intake, you could also try to get a used cobra , even new cobra's aren't that expensive, and pulleys.

94GTLaserRC · Nov 26, 2005

tmoss said:
Have to disagree on the CAI part RC - it's almost as much as porting services (on any lower) and won't give the same hit for the buck. The stock CAI with a K&N is good to over 300HP - Steeda had that recommendation on their site for years.

I think you misunderstood my reason for suggesting it...NOT because of "bang for the buck". I was referring to mods that dont get too involved that are gonna start requiring taking the motor apart or harming fuel economy in a DD. The homemade CAI will help a little, costs very little, and fits the forementioned reasons.

RC

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