Well, I don't want to say how much I got them for but I got a set of holly systemax 2.02 heads for a VERY good price. Now I need another setup. I plan on using my explorer intake with the 65 mm tb. I need a new cam though and no I don't have anywhere near the cash to run a custom cam. I don't think the tfs stage 1 cam will work well with those heads now so I need another choice. opinions are welcome. and thanks Bart for hooking a brudda up. I owe you a few beers btw.