Guys that run 15"-16" wheels what tires?

sparx · Dec 29, 2009

Still considering going to manual steering with the new Borgeson box. Yes I know that parking lot steering will be tougher. I will be increasing wheel size to 15" or 16" and am considering 205 wide tires.

What are you guys running?
sparx

gonzothegreat · Dec 29, 2009

Front wheels:
Magnum 500 in 15x7"
205x60/R15

Rear wheels:
Magnum 500 in 15x8"
225x60/R15

Front suspension:
Complete Global west tubular upper and lower control arms
1" $helby drop and slightly chopped spring (half a coil I think)

Rear suspension:
4-Leaf mid eye leaf springs

iskwezm · Dec 29, 2009

When i had 16's i had 205/45/16 and 245/45/16. The steering wasnt bad.

5280/4 · Dec 29, 2009

sparx said:
Still considering going to manual steering with the new Borgeson box. Yes I know that parking lot steering will be tougher. I will be increasing wheel size to 15" or 16" and am considering 205 wide tires.

What are you guys running?
sparx

i am running 245/50/16 on all four corners of my 65 falcon. Stock steering 4* caster. I am not complaining about manual steering. I love it.

My custom front suspension allows a wider tire in front. Plus i am lowered 3" all the way around.

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sparx · Dec 29, 2009

The reason I consider manual steering is for road feel. I was never able to drive my mustang since the engine was no good, as were other things. LOL

But I do read often that the PS is not the best, not sure about Borgeson upgraded PS.

sparx

phutch11 · Dec 29, 2009

Not sure what year your car is, but 225 is about as big as you'll get up front on a 64 to 66 with the stock suspension.

If I had to do it over I would run a 16 inch wheel as there are much better performance tire selection in that size.

Good luck...

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sparx · Dec 29, 2009

Car is a 66 coupe, will have a 302.
sparx

65FBE2 · Dec 29, 2009

Check out MustangSteve.com web site. He has a lot of pics and info on tire fitment with different suspensions. I have 235 x 17" all the way around one car and love the look. Put 215 x 15" on the other and I dont think I could gotten anything bigger up front without rubbing issues with a 2" drop.

tx65coupe · Dec 30, 2009

I am running 215 60 15 front. My car has the quick ratio steering box and manual steering. It works well. I like it and am keeping it this way. I also have 1 inch drop springs.

I have considered the roller idler arm. I hear that helps alot.

sparx · Dec 30, 2009

What steering box is this and where did you get it tx65?
sparx

tx65coupe · Dec 30, 2009

Its just a rebuilt steering box from a power steering car.

From what I understand, Its the same setup that the early Shelby GT350 had.

I'll try to get the number off of it.

sparx · Dec 30, 2009

Thanks I would appreciate this.
sparx

65FBE2 · Dec 30, 2009

It's a Tag #: HCC-AX (MS) or HCC-AW (PS) . The AX would only be from a GT or a standard car with the handling option. The AW boxes are from power steering cars and are the same ratio but have a different bearing preload. You shouldn't be able to feel the differents if the box has a few 1000 miles on it

rbohm · Dec 30, 2009

i have 205/60-15's on my 64 falcon with manual steering. i had this same tire on my 66 falcon with manual steering. on both cars the steering effort was not too heavy at all.

sparx · Dec 30, 2009

Looking at manual steering boxes now.
Was the power steering box (what I have) 19 to 1 and manual 16-1?
After removing my box (weeks ago) I was soaking the tag from the box (just last week) and being a schmuck I tossed the tag out with the solvent, I finally noticed when looking for it today.

I don't think it is a major task to ID my steering box, well I hope not.

Anyway I am looking at Flaming River, but never hear good about them and this guy: http://www.stangerssite.com/TruckCVparts.html

I am hoping a 16-1 will work since the tires will not be excessive in width.

My steering box and shaft are in nice condition, but I doubt not any good for a manual application.
I wish I had read the fricking tag at least.

Being human sometimes is a PITA.
sparx

tx65coupe · Dec 31, 2009

Mine is HCC AW, and is a 16 turn.

I thought this might help.

The Mustang Shop - Steering Box Tag Information

Application Tag Code Type Ratio Turns
65-66 Mustang HCC AW Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCC AX Manual 16:1 3 3/4*
HCC AT Manual 19.9:1 4 5/8
65-66 Comet and Fairlane HCA BZ Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCA CA Manual 22:1 6
65-66 Falcon HCA BY Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCA CA Manual 22:1 6

amorrow · Dec 31, 2009

I have no complaints about the manual steering in my '65, and I have a rebuilt 16:1 box, longer Shelby pitman and idler arms with a roller idler, and 215/60/15 BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires.

If you want more of a performance tire, check out the Avon CR6ZZ. It's really soft and would make a great street/opentrack tire. Many of the Cobra guys run them, have good things to say about them, and they come in sizes to fit 15" Mustang wheels.

Kman · Dec 31, 2009

I have 215-65-15 radial T/A's on 15x7 Torque Thrust D's on my 65 K coupe with the HCC-AX steering box and have no real issues while either driving or parking. Definitley requires a little more effort than when I had the 195-75-14 redlines on styled steel wheels on it but it is still pretty easy to live with.

65FBE2 · Dec 31, 2009

If it were me. I would look for a good used box,(HCC AW are easiest to find) check the backlash before installing it. If you are going through the expense to buy a rebuilt box, ditch it and get rack and pinion. Costs more but 40 years better technology and the car drives like new. Ive had them both ways and now I just factor in the cost of a rack when I look for a car. Only if it were a concourse show car would I hesitate. Good tight factory box OK but will never compare to rack & pinion for drivability

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