Still considering going to manual steering with the new Borgeson box. Yes I know that parking lot steering will be tougher. I will be increasing wheel size to 15" or 16" and am considering 205 wide tires.
Still considering going to manual steering with the new Borgeson box. Yes I know that parking lot steering will be tougher. I will be increasing wheel size to 15" or 16" and am considering 205 wide tires.
Check out MustangSteve.com web site. He has a lot of pics and info on tire fitment with different suspensions. I have 235 x 17" all the way around one car and love the look. Put 215 x 15" on the other and I dont think I could gotten anything bigger up front without rubbing issues with a 2" drop.
I am running 215 60 15 front. My car has the quick ratio steering box and manual steering. It works well. I like it and am keeping it this way. I also have 1 inch drop springs.
I have considered the roller idler arm. I hear that helps alot.
It's a Tag #: HCC-AX (MS) or HCC-AW (PS) . The AX would only be from a GT or a standard car with the handling option. The AW boxes are from power steering cars and are the same ratio but have a different bearing preload. You shouldn't be able to feel the differents if the box has a few 1000 miles on it
i have 205/60-15's on my 64 falcon with manual steering. i had this same tire on my 66 falcon with manual steering. on both cars the steering effort was not too heavy at all.
Looking at manual steering boxes now.
Was the power steering box (what I have) 19 to 1 and manual 16-1?
After removing my box (weeks ago) I was soaking the tag from the box (just last week) and being a schmuck I tossed the tag out with the solvent, I finally noticed when looking for it today.
I don't think it is a major task to ID my steering box, well I hope not.
Application Tag Code Type Ratio Turns
65-66 Mustang HCC AW Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCC AX Manual 16:1 3 3/4*
HCC AT Manual 19.9:1 4 5/8
65-66 Comet and Fairlane HCA BZ Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCA CA Manual 22:1 6
65-66 Falcon HCA BY Power 16:1 3 3/4
HCA CA Manual 22:1 6
I have no complaints about the manual steering in my '65, and I have a rebuilt 16:1 box, longer Shelby pitman and idler arms with a roller idler, and 215/60/15 BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires.
If you want more of a performance tire, check out the Avon CR6ZZ. It's really soft and would make a great street/opentrack tire. Many of the Cobra guys run them, have good things to say about them, and they come in sizes to fit 15" Mustang wheels.
I have 215-65-15 radial T/A's on 15x7 Torque Thrust D's on my 65 K coupe with the HCC-AX steering box and have no real issues while either driving or parking. Definitley requires a little more effort than when I had the 195-75-14 redlines on styled steel wheels on it but it is still pretty easy to live with.
If it were me. I would look for a good used box,(HCC AW are easiest to find) check the backlash before installing it. If you are going through the expense to buy a rebuilt box, ditch it and get rack and pinion. Costs more but 40 years better technology and the car drives like new. Ive had them both ways and now I just factor in the cost of a rack when I look for a car. Only if it were a concourse show car would I hesitate. Good tight factory box OK but will never compare to rack & pinion for drivability