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H&R SS Springs on! Eibach Prokit off! reviews/comparisons PIX DUW!

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BigChiefSmokem

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Scroll down if you just wanna see pix

Well if you followed any of THIS thread you'll know that I wasnt happy with the drop my Eibach Pro Kit gave me.. I believe this to be a combination of not enough drop and a low profile tire on the car.

Stock:


Eibach Pro Kit:

It still looked visually like a 4x4. (More Pix of the Eibach Pro Kit can be found in the above linked thread) With the eibach pro kit the car still felt a little mushy, but was still better when it came to cornering than the stock springs, but not by much... the suspension had less travel/dive/squat than stock and even though the drop was only about an 1 in the front (Even after settling, so i did not get the advertised drop), i still bottomed out on speed bumps if i took them at a reasonable rate, which to me was a little slower than how i took them stock. the ride still felt like it had too much "travel" to it for me... I had a shop put the eibach's on, and there was question as to whether or not the springs were sitting in the a-arm correctly in the front.. after i took the suspension apart in the front and looked at the springs before taking them out, YES they were sitting in there correctly.

Eibach Pro Kit:



My thoughts on installing the springs:

So i opted for the H&R SS springs, which advertise 2" in the front and 1.6" in the rear. I had a shop put on the eibach's on but this time i tackled the install myself, which honestly was my first time doing any of this kind of stuff... It took a bit longer than i expected, but now that it has been done, i can honestly say that if i ever help a mustang buddy out in the future to do the install, we could probably knock it out in about 4 hours or so... It took my much longer due to my idiocy when it came to basic mechanical skills, searching for tools, and basically doing it by myself. Installing the new springs was not easy but it was fun, it just takes time and patience and a buddy. (I would say it would be easy now, having done it once, and could do it again easily). Just have "gofer" buddy to gofer tools while you're sitting down and patience and a good attitude, its all pretty straight forward. I followed the directions from spreadman here on stangnet, also mustanworld's directions and a vogtland springs install directions for reference pix from yellow mustang registry. THanks to all you guys for the good directions. BTW, I unbolted the shock in the fronts from the a arm instead of under the hood, as i had the shop install caster and camber plates from steeda when they installed the eibach's, and they must've used an air wrench with a lot of torque on it cause i COULD NOT get that huge nut off, even with a breaker bar.

H&R Super Sports:

Once the springs were finally on, you could tell automatically that the car was sitting MUCH lower in the front, but upon measuring it, it was actually only about 1.75" in the front and 1.5" in the rear... Thats how much 75" will do for you visually. the car has settled and is now sitting 2" lower in the front and 1.6" or so in the rear and has a nice rake to it. As far as ride quality goes.. Stiffer than stock, of course, and but not a whole lot stiffer than the eibach's for the amount of drop that it gave me. i was kinda expecting it to be teeth jarring, but its not bad at all, and i can carve a corner now and its on rails!!!! Going over speed bumps i dont scrape any more than i did with the eibach's. The whole suspension feels "tighter" than the eibach's, so when i go over that speed bump, the car seems to not "dip" down as much as with the eibach's. Ride quality is acceptable for a daily driver for me. This is with the stock shocks/struts.. I will monitor the ride quality over the next 6-12 months to see if it gets worse.

H&R Supersport pix:





If ya have any ?? Just ask...
 
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FalconGuy016

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Nice, very clear comparison Im sure a lot of people will appreciate this

Is that a painted lip? <3
 

BigChiefSmokem

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FalconGuy016 said:
Nice, very clear comparison Im sure a lot of people will appreciate this
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I hope so.. took me long enough
 

dsg_gt2004

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perfect
 

wesl56

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i still think it needs to be a tad lower, but at least its not stock, heh... i always appreciate seeing a lowered stang, and that thing sure is clean!
:thumbsup:
 

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wesl56 said:
i still think it needs to be a tad lower, but at least its not stock, heh... i always appreciate seeing a lowered stang, and that thing sure is clean!
:thumbsup:
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haha lower?? Hells no! i'd scrape on everything! looks pretty as it is now! thanks, i keep her nice and clean...
 

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wesl56 said:
i still think it needs to be a tad lower, but at least its not stock, heh... i always appreciate seeing a lowered stang, and that thing sure is clean!
:thumbsup:
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lower???
that is perfect for weight distribution and creates an awesome stance

oh, hes got a v6 ...i'll let your comment slide this one time only
 

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Great write up on the two types of springs. Like you, I am totally impressed with the handling of the Super Sports. Car looks GREAT !!!! Enjoy .
 

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Yah gotta love the H&R's, car looks really good man.
 

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nice! what kind of isolators are u using, if any? Did you get an alignment yet?

I'm dying to make the switch to SS also.
 

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great post and congrats on the improved set-up. it looks great.

I was going to go with either the Supersports or Eibach Sportlines. Found a deal on the sportlines so i bought those, now im shopping for shocks/struts. ill post pictures and give my thoughts on those so we can have an active comparison between all 3 springs.
 
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I actually got H&R Super Sports installed this friday and my drop looks exactly the same.. I even have chrome bullits as well. It's such a gorgeous drop :-D
 

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GHostface: i'm using the stock isolators and i havent gotten an alignment yet.

jokegrin, that sounds like a good idea, maybe after that we can get a sticky? mods?

aerosi, any pix?
 

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nice write up, your car looks much better with the lower stance ! Your car looks great !!!
 

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Very nice
Go ahead and start saving for those new struts and shocks. Youll start feeling some nice jarring hits in the strut towers before too long. H&Rs rock but theyll kill some stock shocks.
 

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triggz said:
Very nice
Go ahead and start saving for those new struts and shocks. Youll start feeling some nice jarring hits in the strut towers before too long. H&Rs rock but theyll kill some stock shocks.
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Yeh i had a feeling they would... i will replace later, especially now that i know i can do it myself.. at least i think i could...
 
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Out of curiosity I just went and stuck a tape on mine.

Front gap = 2-3/8

Rear gap - 3 1/8"

Thats almost as low as your sits now. But those HRs look way better than the eibachs did.

I also got that nice lil muscle car rake that makes it look aggresive. Overall I'm happy with my suspension.
 

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That solidified it, I'm getting chrome bullets...they look so badass. Nice ride man, it sits really nice on that setup
 

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H&R's look 100 times better. Your tires look a little small. are they 265's?
 
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I just installed H&R Super Sports on my GT over the weekend and the drop looks the same - awesome! The gap around the front is perfect and the slightly higher stance in the back just makes it look mean. Now, I need to get my alignment done so I can put my chrome Cobra R's back on the Stang and get my friend's stock wheels and tires off of the car.

I'll post pics of mine as soon as my good wheels are back on
 
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