How about this for a new engine

UTGAMER said:

And I thought about selling this and getting another 1 or rebuilding but think a new engine would be better in long run... Why u say heart ache comes wth crates

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I am saying if you spend all this money on a new motor but don't know what you are doing finishing putting it together and installing it, you may ruin it, which will suck BAD! Like I said, you admit to not knowing very much about what you are doing or about engines.

You said you have someone to help out, so as long as they know what they are doing you should be ok. And no, Summit is not going to change the water pump and timing cover for you, but anyone with the skill to install a motor should be able to change a water pump and timing cover. The oil pan will fit your 94.

UTGAMER said:

Yea I have someone to help. I just called Summit about the 306 and they said it would have to have a different water pump and timing cover for it to fit. Didnt think to ask if they could do it.. You think they would? And I forgot to ask about the oil pan too. Its labeled as dual sump "that fits most FOX BODY" cars I have a 94

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you can just reuse the timing cover and water pump that are on your car now.

Everything should should swap over. Your computer will work, however, you will probably want to have it tuned at some point down the road. Also, you could reuse your stock intake, but to see the full potential of that motor, you will want to upgrade that. And you won't be able to use the valve covers that come with that motor with your stock intake unless you get a spacer. You will also probably want to upgrade injectors, throttle body, mass air, exhaust and fuel pump.

So to see the full potential of that crate motor, you are going to need alot more than 3k bucks. You could get by with your stock stuff for now, but you will be choking off some power.

First, most aftermarket stuff is going to fit a crate motor no problem.

Second, rebuild kits come in different levels. Basic kits may just include new bearings and seals, on up to complete kits that include new pistons and rods.

You will still want to have the block cleaned and bored. You can do this yourself, but due to your experience level and probable lack of tools, leave this to a machine shop. Last I checked a few years ago, it was about 15-20 buck per cylinder, so about 150 bucks or so.

You will probably want to recondition the head will you are at it.

Here are your options as I see them:

1. Buy new car and sell old one. Easiest route but may just be getting into different problems.

2. Pull heads and install new gaskets. Install new cam while you have it apart. Relatively cheap but you would still have a high mileage motor which may be needing fresh rings and bearings.

3. Complete rebuild. If you do the work yourself (with help) this may still be relatively cheap. You would have a fresh motor and good place to start adding performance. Make sure you have someone who can successfully help you do this work.

4. Have a shop rebuild motor. This is going to cost you but at least you would have a warrantee.

5. Buy a complete used motor, from intake to pan. Since you are in GA, check out Mustang Parts Specialties. ( I am not saying I recommend them, just check them out) They usually have complete 94/95 engine assemblies for around 700-800 bucks. This will make it a pretty easy swap, just a matter of unplugging everything, dropping in the motor and plugging everything back in. But in the end you still have a used stock motor.

6. Buy a good new short block (engine without heads and accessories), and swap over everything from your motor. Cost more than a used motor but it will be new except for heads. Again, your heads may need to be rebuilt also.

7. Buy good long block crate motor (engine with heads installed) and swap over rest of your stock components. Cost more than short block but will be all new except intake and accessories.

8. Buy complete new engine assembly, intake to pan. Will be the most expensive option other than having everything done by shop. Like buy complete used motor, will be mostly plug and play.

I am not recommending any one option over another, but given your lack of experience and knowledge, I would probably steer clear of doing a rebuild yourself. You said you had someone to help you with this, so you really need to be asking that person what they think and what they can do. You are also going to need to have the tools available that you will need for this project. I am not trying to discourage you, but I don't want to see you sink a lot of money into this and not be able to do it. In the end it will cost you more to fix your mistakes.

Good luck to you and keep on posting.