Black'02 said:
+1
The marks that you see on the bumper are from the body shop not getting the surface sanded perfectly smooth before they applied the basecoat. Assuming that the orange peel is in the clearcoat, it needs to cure for a few days then have it wet sanded and buffed (which is what they are telling you). I'd call and let them know about the spot where you see the sanding scratches so that they would be prepared to redo it.
Just to let everyone know most body shops pay their employees by the job and not by the hour. Therefore the quicker they get the job done the more money they can make for themselves in that hour.
So alot of the time little mistakes are made that the average customer that doesn't care as much about there car, as we do ours, doesn't notice.
The imperfections under the corner lamp you are talking about is roughed up plastic that they sanded to quickly and didn't get enough primer on. Since repriming it would have taken more time therefore more money out of there pocket they just hope you wouldn't notice it.
The orange peel you are talkin about i am afraid is probably dry spray, which is kinda like orange peel but really rough, its where the painter didn't go all the way down with the clear as they were suppose to. happens alot inside foglight openings and such. They might be able to sand it out but don't count on it.
The little bubble your talking about i would have to see a pic of it to tell you what it is. But again its just probably the shop trying to turn out more work quickly to make more money. QUANTINY DOESN'T EQUAL QUALITY.
Another thing so eveyone knows, clearcoat doesn't take days to dry just a couple of hours after it has been baked. also most shops are getting out of wetsanding and use 3M's trizact method instead.
If you have anymore questions let me know or send me a personal message.
So alot of the time little mistakes are made that the average customer that doesn't care as much about there car, as we do ours, doesn't notice.
The imperfections under the corner lamp you are talking about is roughed up plastic that they sanded to quickly and didn't get enough primer on. Since repriming it would have taken more time therefore more money out of there pocket they just hope you wouldn't notice it.
The orange peel you are talkin about i am afraid is probably dry spray, which is kinda like orange peel but really rough, its where the painter didn't go all the way down with the clear as they were suppose to. happens alot inside foglight openings and such. They might be able to sand it out but don't count on it.
The little bubble your talking about i would have to see a pic of it to tell you what it is. But again its just probably the shop trying to turn out more work quickly to make more money. QUANTINY DOESN'T EQUAL QUALITY.
Another thing so eveyone knows, clearcoat doesn't take days to dry just a couple of hours after it has been baked. also most shops are getting out of wetsanding and use 3M's trizact method instead.
If you have anymore questions let me know or send me a personal message.
RED2001GT said:
It is very easy to get orange peel with the clear coat. What I do is wetsand with 1500 grit sandpaper. Keep the sandpaper wet while doing this . There should be lots of whitish substance removed. You will have to get a "feel" for when you are finished, but I look for a dull finsh with no "bumps". Dont freak out at this point. Wash the panel down. Buy some 3M Compound (the pro stuff) from a professional body shop, and buy/rent a buffer and buff the clearcoat out. Works like a charm. Oh yeah, be careful on the edges with the power buffer- it's easy to buff through.
When painting bumpers or any other flexible plastic, it is advised to tell the paint shop that you may need flex agent added to the paint. I could be wrong; about the need for flex agent nowadays,but most automotive paint places are glad to answer any questions you may have.
TripleBlk said:
flex agents keep the sealer and clearcoat from complety curing in a few days, just long enough to work with it to get the bumper back on the car. Most shops don't use it because it is a pain in the a$$ do buff a bumper anyways let alone with clear that just wants to smear instead of buff.
Also if anyone is woundering i do work in a bodyshop, so i'm not just some joe off the street giving advise about what i think should be done.
I would take it off and ask to have it redone. Just tell the guy that you found a few more flaws and that the orange peel is noticeable compared to the rest of the cars paint. I wouldn't try wetsanding or buffing it...these methods will remove a lot of clearcoat. If you do want to try something to smooth the clear, meguiars scratchx is a gentle product that you just rub in with a pad and wipe off. I've seen it work on some orange peeled paints. This might work...im not sure if it will remove all of your orange peel. Its worth a try.
$700 is actually pretty cheap to have all that done but if he gaurantees his work and believes in quality then he should fix any problems you have. Just because you know him for the past couple years doesn't mean he can lower the quality of work on your vehicle.
What insuarance company do u have?? if you have state farm i am pretty possitive that if he doesn't do anything about your car then you can get ahold of your agent and have them help you out and get it fixed.
Either way be persistant and don't let this go by the wayside.
What insuarance company do u have?? if you have state farm i am pretty possitive that if he doesn't do anything about your car then you can get ahold of your agent and have them help you out and get it fixed.
Either way be persistant and don't let this go by the wayside.