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95Vert383AOD

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My car was hit in the nose and needed a frame pull. Hood is fine but they're changing front fenders, lights,and bumpers, painting side mirrors and side skirts. Windshield will be removed to paint the car as well as other body parts to be painted. There are a few other dents on some of the fenders as well. He said that the hood needed alot of prep work (its unpainted)

The owner of the shop is saying it will come back "Show Room" condition. Insurance has already paid the shop $3700 and i talked to the owner who said it can all be done for another $3000. Thats $6700. He says showroom...but thats a helluva lot of $$$ its a Convertible.





What do you guys think??? Hes got $3700 in his hands...how much more should i give this shop?
 

95Vert383AOD

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Oh one more thing...the code is E9 Laser Red...im tempted to go with something flashier like ES Vibrant red.
 

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that seems like he's raping you without lube. laser red is next to impossible to match and its an expensive paint but for that price he better be painting it with solid gold.
 

nmcgrawj

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Im shocked that the insurance company is putting money into it. My damage got to be over $6,000 and they just totalled it out.


Is he gonna do the jams/engine bay if u change the color?
 

95Vert383AOD

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Insurance gave me $3700 for the damage....im paying the rest out of the pain and suffering money. The $6700 total would be to have the damage fixed and the whole car painted. So i wouldn't have to worry about matching anything.
 

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95Vert383AOD said:
Insurance gave me $3700 for the damage....im paying the rest out of the pain and suffering money. The $6700 total would be to have the damage fixed and the whole car painted. So i wouldn't have to worry about matching anything.
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Not worth it... $3700 is fine... a decent paint job is about 3k here and $700 to fix the damage is fine. If he finishes it and its not to your standards contact your insurance company.


Id go redfire metallic thats what im doing
 

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Adam95GT said:
Not worth it... $3700 is fine... a decent paint job is about 3k here and $700 to fix the damage is fine. If he finishes it and its not to your standards contact your insurance company.


Id go redfire metallic thats what im doing
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The insurance company is now out of the picture. They paid out the $3700 to the owner (95vert383AOD). If the shop doesn't do the job to his standards the only recourse will be to small claims court if they disagree about the quality of work. #k for a paint job is cheap. In my neck of the woods one is looking at a minimum of 5k+. It just cost me over $500 to prep and spray 1/2 of my rear bumper (also laser red).
 

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toyman said:
The insurance company is now out of the picture. They paid out the $3700 to the owner (95vert383AOD). If the shop doesn't do the job to his standards the only recourse will be to small claims court if they disagree about the quality of work. #k for a paint job is cheap. In my neck of the woods one is looking at a minimum of 5k+. It just cost me over $500 to prep and spray 1/2 of my rear bumper (also laser red).
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If the quote of the shop is what the insurance check came from they are liable. My dad had to go to court with a shop over something in this nature.

Front bumper and hood were messed up.

He had them replaced the shop returned the car covered in orange peel and he called the insurance company. The car went to some where that fixed it right. Insurance company cut another check and went after said shop.

Week later the first shop owner and some goon came in to my dads work and assaulted him and landed him in the hospital.


I personally think its not a good idea to have paint on a car more then the value of said car.


Also laser red is not a cheap paint... fall back to a 2 stage and that might save you some $$
 

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All in what you want and are willing to spend. Some people spend 50k+ on a paint job and some are happy with a $200 one. This guy has to cover his time and overhead to make a living. Sure, you can find someone to do it on the side for much cheaper, but that's not the body shops fault so hopefully they won't get blamed for the estimate they gave. Everone knows a friend of a friend who's friend got a hookup on the side for nothing or someone who's done something in their back yard, but this was the estimate this particular shop gave, so it's ultimately up to you to decide weather or not you want to go for it. If a paint job was so cheap or easy everyone would have one. Sure there are shops out there who don't operate under any moral codes and there's ones that do, but it's all up to your impression of their work and what you're willing to spend. Sometimes shops even give racers higher estimates to cover themselves against any complaints and such vs a regular run of the mill insurance job that really pays their bills. If you're happy with the guy so far and have the cash why not, otherwise shop around if you're not. Any way you cut it it's still a good chunk of dough in this economy, but unfortunately that's the price of our car hobby. Whichever route you go, looking forward to seeing the finished pics of it.
 

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$6700 for paint and body work is not unreasonable. But you should be getting a VERY NICE paintjob for that money. I'd ask the guy to put you in touch with several customers who had gotten similar quality level paint jobs, that you can talk to and look at the work. If he won't, walk. Keep shopping until you find someone who has good references, that you like the look of. Ask the dude who just spent a year getting his white and blue car done--bargains normally aren't.

And like someone else said, make sure you're ready to live with a high-end paint job. Tends to make you a little socially dysfunctional, like wanting to kill people who wear riveted jeans, park 40 miles from the door, and go postal on drivers who have rocks in their tires.

My 95 has helped me recognize that I don't want a show-quality paint job on my 67. Because I'm going to drive it, and if you drive it, it's going to get chipped, dinged, etc.
 

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And like someone else said, make sure you're ready to live with a high-end paint job. Tends to make you a little socially dysfunctional, like wanting to kill people who wear riveted jeans, park 40 miles from the door, and go postal on drivers who have rocks in their tires.

My 95 has helped me recognize that I don't want a show-quality paint job on my 67. Because I'm going to drive it, and if you drive it, it's going to get chipped, dinged, etc.
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Good advice... and where you are living man you are gonnna get people scratching as they walk by in parkin glots, the driveway, etc... Go basic.. Talk to the owner of the shop to do the whole car for the $3700... I know I wouldn't put a $3k paint job on my car. I have about $400 in my paint job including all materials (not that my paint is nice). I am due for a re-paint and at that time I am probably going with the Summit two stage system. Probbaly cost me another $400 this time...
 

95Vert383AOD

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He says the materials he uses are expensive. He gave me a tour of the shop twice. The place is like a clean room. Very clean very organized. Guy said that the laser red paint would be about $1500 alone. They use premium paint etc. etc. It is a good shop.

Would vibrant red be cheaper than laser??? Are there less layers? I'm also gonna have them paint the cowl vent.

Chris
 

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$6700 isn't unreasonable at all for a good paint job. I've seen people drop $10K to get a showroom quality paintjob, and that was without major body work like that.

Kurt
 

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95Vert383AOD said:
He says the materials he uses are expensive. He gave me a tour of the shop twice. The place is like a clean room. Very clean very organized. Guy said that the laser red paint would be about $1500 alone. They use premium paint etc. etc. It is a good shop.

Would vibrant red be cheaper than laser??? Are there less layers? I'm also gonna have them paint the cowl vent.

Chris
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G2 ? Redfire metallic looks awesome close to laser and its 2 stage.

The dupont chroma base for my bay 1pt was like $160


But $$$ paint will change your life..
 

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$6700 fr the paint and body work is UNREASONABLE! At least here in California. You don't know any friend who works at body shop or owns one?

Man that's a lot of money for the repair! Sorry
 

95Vert383AOD

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So i go by the shop yesterday afternoon. This guy isn't really budging on price. Messed up thing is his paperwork lists that the frame pull took 24 hours. (which is pure bull) And he charged me $1100 for it. Shop rates are posted about $85 an hour. that comes out to around $45 an hour. Long story short is this guy seems to make you think your getting a deal on shop rates and is jacking up the hours spent on the car.

My friend whos a body guy said "For 24 hours they could have cut and welded new aprons and a radiator support in."

Chris
 

Husky44

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Did you ask him to explain the 24 hours? That seems pretty excessive.

Have you checked references? Both talked to the people, and seen the finished product?

In my experience, you need to shop the daylights out of bodywork, and you need to do BOTH.

I made the mistake once of just looking at the finished products, and not talking to people who had had the work done...

I would have found out that the beautiful paint jobs weren't worth the pain.

You might want to have him hold up until you've done some more homework.
 
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