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hexum311

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Hey I need some engouragement here. I almost took of the tri-ax for stock again. Everyone knows that whatever clunkiness or notchiness you have only intensifies when you change out your stock shifter. 2nd-3rd is just clunky sometimes unless I baby it and every now and then I get a grind going from 2nd-3rd. Lately I have been getting tired of this. I tried out a friends stang the other day with the stock shifter. It definately takes a lot less effort to shift the gears with it stock, but it is really tall now that I am used to the tri-ax. I had a second thought when we went for a drive in it and he immediatley missed 3rd for 5th twice in a row! So I just went for a test drive in mine and I realized I was thinking crazy! Help sway me away from the stock side! What do you guys think? Should I put the stock back on?
 

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When shifting to 3rd just push it into gear...don't grasp the knob. I just use the palm of my hand to push into 3rd and allow the Triax to do it's job and that is to find 3rd for me. Fifth is a little more involved but the race is usually over by then anyway...
 

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Don't do it man, you will regret it!!
 
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coramprat said:
When shifting to 3rd just push it into gear...don't grasp the knob. I just use the palm of my hand to push into 3rd and allow the Triax to do it's job and that is to find 3rd for me. Fifth is a little more involved but the race is usually over by then anyway...
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Yes I have noticed this also. I can kind of flick it into 3rd with my finger and its goes pretty good. It just takes a second. I think for some reason our trans justs takes it a second to settle into and find 3rd gear. Weird
I must say that after I switched the stock leather shifter knob for the mach/bullitt I can feel the gears a little more precise now and it goes in a little bit smoother.
 

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put the stock shifter back on and get the tranny fix
 

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One more thing, make sure the plastic cup was installed on the ball of the shifter before you put it back into the 3650. If you don't, you will miss a lot of shifts and have a clunky action.
 
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FallenPhoenix said:
put the stock shifter back on and get the tranny fix
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I don't have a 1-2 grind at all, and I also heard someone on here say they would not do it for an 04. Is that correct or not?
 
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mcmmotorsports said:
One more thing, make sure the plastic cup was installed on the ball of the shifter before you put it back into the 3650. If you don't, you will miss a lot of shifts and have a clunky action.
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HAHA . Yeah I followed the instructions, but thanks.
 

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This isn't an expert opinion but just one I have formed gathering, reading information, and using these shifters. The tranny syncros require a fraction of a second to enable gear selection. Sometimes it feels as though it takes that split second away from a precise shift and it is compounded by the shorter throw of the aftermarket shifter. With the stock, since the throw is a little longer, you don't notice it as much. This is just my opinion though but it seems logical.
 
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coramprat said:
This isn't an expert opinion but just one I have formed gathering, reading information, and using these shifters. The tranny syncros require a fraction of a second to enable gear selection. Sometimes it feels as though it takes that split second away from a precise shift and it is compounded by the shorter throw of the aftermarket shifter. With the stock, since the throw is a little longer, you don't notice it as much. This is just my opinion though but it seems logical.
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I have thought the same thing. I am just hoping that this isn't the sign of a bad syncro since I only really feel it on the 2-3 shift. It is weird though that it always goes perfect on the 4-3 shift.
 

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I could NEVER go back to stock shifter. It just feels way to loose I like the notch feeling I get and the "click" when it goes in gear.
 
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Sounds like the syncros to me.

I had mine in on warranty and all was good after.
 

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Notchiness and all Id rather have my Tri Ax than stock. The stock shifter just feels so flimsy compared to the Tri Ax. I bought some rubber plumbing gasket strips at Home Depot yesterday. They are about 1/8" thick. I cut two pieces, made holes for the shifter bolts, and remounted the shifter. I can still feel some of the notchiness, but its some better.
 
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man stick with the tri ax
 

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hexum311 said:
I don't have a 1-2 grind at all, and I also heard someone on here say they would not do it for an 04. Is that correct or not?
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If the shifter isn't working like it should, go in and complain until they do something about it. I've noticed mine is already a little notchy with less than 2k miles on it, but I've got another 3 years/28000 miles to get it fixed.
 

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hexum311 said:
I don't have a 1-2 grind at all, and I also heard someone on here say they would not do it for an 04. Is that correct or not?
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i get mine back monday for the tsb fix on my 04
 
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Marks5.0! said:
i get mine back monday for the tsb fix on my 04
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Did your 04 Mach have the trans problem bad?
 

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Like the others said, let the shifter work for you. It almost glides right into 3rd.
 

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coramprat said:
When shifting to 3rd just push it into gear...don't grasp the knob. I just use the palm of my hand to push into 3rd and allow the Triax to do it's job and that is to find 3rd for me. Fifth is a little more involved but the race is usually over by then anyway...
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Exactly!!!
 

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The reason all the aftermarket shifters feel that way is because they are solid billet or steel. The stock shifters are two piece steel with a nice rubber shock absorber connecting them. That piece of rubber soaks up the clunkyness (if thats even a word) you feel shifting into all the gears.

I'll never give up my UPR Blu Thunder. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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