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I made 10 runs with new combo,,LOL

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Cool, that's about right then. I had my AOD all built up and then my buddy wanted it, so I decided to bang gears and try for that lost second ya know? You come out of the hole pretty quick though. I always hear that the stock mass air sensor is a real flow killer, maybe you'd greatly benefit from a bigger one? Just my two cents.
 

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yea thats good and to tell u the truth u have good times with a "stock car" aod's are usually 1.5 secs slower then t-5's putting them in about 15.5 stock ur doing good, and if u had a 5-speed u would definatly be in the 13's if ur keeping the aod i would say put 4.10's in much better then 373's in a aod, good luck
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Nah,Im keep the aod,over the winter Im gonna get a lentech kit,and have it installed,yes they are expensive,but Ive seen what they can do on the track
 

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Js5ohLX said:
Cool, that's about right then. I had my AOD all built up and then my buddy wanted it, so I decided to bang gears and try for that lost second ya know? You come out of the hole pretty quick though. I always hear that the stock mass air sensor is a real flow killer, maybe you'd greatly benefit from a bigger one? Just my two cents.
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I have a 75mm Pro M.
 

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hey willy, will i be happy with a higher stall convertor?
 

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hey willy, will i be happy with a higher stall convertor?
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Out of all my bolt-ons,that was the only one that made a dramatic difference!!!
 
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I can assure you, yes. But when you do that, get a lentech valve body or a TRANSGO shift kit. With some 4.10's it'll be much better. You'll get rubber into 3rd.
 

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thats cool i was lookin at the TCI street figter, it's good for 1500 rpm over stock. does that sound like a good stall speed
 

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i have 4.10's already, how much will a convertor and valvebody help me?
 

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WantaGT said:
thats cool i was lookin at the TCI street figter, it's good for 1500 rpm over stock. does that sound like a good stall speed
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The stock conv. is about 1800,if you have a stock cam,get a 2400stall speed.When it comes to converters you get what you pay for.IMO,TCI,and B&M are crap!! Precision Industries makes the best converter,but there 700 beans.I hear alot of good things about edge converters,and there alot cheaper.
 

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i have 4.10's already, how much will a convertor and valvebody help me?
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If you noticed a difference with the 410's,then you will love a conv.Its like a night and day difference
 
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When a converter stalls at 24-2600 it is a stock converter without the internal bafle. If you want to go cheap, get one off e-bay. They are rebuilt with torrington bearings and furnaced brazed, perfect for you. Just put one in a buddy's car, and it works great. Only cost 150 bucks shipped. But yeah precision industries are awesome along with edge. It just might be a little overkill for your budget and your ride.
 

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what do all of you think about the 2600-2800 edge
 

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what do all of you think about the 2600-2800 edge
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If they make em in that range,sure.Mines a 2800 and I have a stock cam,its a little loose,but its not that bad.
 

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yeah the mild street or whatever is 2600-2800
 

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I think with the AOD those 28s are definately too tall for a stock motor, if you've got any gear in the rear end then it's killing the effect, and if you dont then it's making things worse.
 

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I think with the AOD those 28s are definately too tall for a stock motor, if you've got any gear in the rear end then it's killing the effect, and if you dont then it's making things worse.
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I thought the 410's were too much gear,so I got some 28 inch tall tires to take some gear out.I chalk it up as experience!!! Dude,PM me your address,if shipping is less then 50 bucks I'LL send the bullets out this week. I have to mail out an intake also for Tom.( T-Moss)
 

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I thought the 410's were too much gear,so I got some 28 inch tall tires to take some gear out.....
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This is what people have done for many years to take some of the gear "out" of say a 4:10 gear, just like running 26" tires puts more gear "in" 3:73s.
 

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This is what people have done for many years to take some of the gear "out" of say a 4:10 gear, just like running 26" tires puts more gear "in" 3:73s.
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Yup,,thats what I was going for.But these tires are quit big on a fox body.When I crossed the line a 92mph,it was very squirrally
 
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I'd go with a 3000 stall lockup converter, like the TCI 432800. It is a great converter. I had one in my combo a few years ago. My combo was a stock '85 CFI 5.0 HO with the '86-93 exhaust. I would cut 2.0x 60fts with it and go around 14.9-15.00 @ 92/93 mph. I plan on running another TCI 432800 converter with my 347 combo. I should have it together soon.

I think going to a 3000 stall lockup converter now is a good choice, especially if you plan on future mods. Heads, intakes and/or a cam swap moves the torque peak up. The result will be a better matched converter next year. Since the converters locks up, the stall goes away in 3rd (or drive).

If the 3000 stall scares you, go with a 2500 unit. But if you plan more mods later, you'll wish you went slightly loose on the converter the first time. Just for the record, my stock '88 converter stalled around 2000-2100 rpm on the transbrake.

Be wary of any custom converter unless you can provide a dyno sheet. The converter guy needs to know the torque peak of the engine. That is, if you want a matched converter. Converters are a science, just like camshafts, and you NEED the proper specs to get the proper part(s).
 

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funny thing storm, i just ordered that convertor from jegs yesterday. so you think i'll be happy with it?
 
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