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lvmustanggt

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I bought comp cams EX270AH-13 and Valve springs. This performance shop who I talk with told me they will installed it for $ 180.00 so I called today cause I got my parts already. He said $ 180.00 for cams only and $1500 for valve springs cause he said he have to take the head out to do valve springs, that is bull **** cause I have seen people do valve springs without taking head.

I am Fu**ed guys and girls cause I know I'm not going to pay that much for cams. I don't want to work on it by my self cause don't know ***** about engine.

How much sould it cost to have it install ?

Any one here in vegas that you know that is good in installing cams ?

My cams are dieing to get inside my engine please help

Thanks
 

bigcat

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there is a tool that screws into the spark plug hole and uses compressed air to keep the valves from falling into the motor. htey dont need to remove the heads.
 

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But most shops will remove the heads.. due to dropping a valve and working space

I would do mine myself if I had gotten a quote like that.
 

billfisher

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rotate EACH cylinder to TDC as you change them and they can't fall in. just take your time.
 

HoustonGT

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1700 for cma and valve spring install? Holy **** that seems high. Isnt the norm like 500 or so?
 

03ghoststang

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billfisher said:
rotate EACH cylinder to TDC as you change them and they can't fall in. just take your time.
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i agree 100% here that would save a big headache
 

Skidzz

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HoustonGT said:
1700 for cma and valve spring install? Holy **** that seems high. Isnt the norm like 500 or so?
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Yea, and I wouldn't pay more than $600 for it, and that would be pushing it.
 
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Pennywise2

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No you are not lvmustang call Ryan tomarrow at 1320
Motorsports and see what they can do for you.
702-531-1320 / 702-612-2611
 

lvmustanggt

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Pennywise2 said:
No you are not lvmustang call Ryan tomarrow at 1320
Motorsports and see what they can do for you.
702-531-1320 / 702-612-2611
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Thanks pennywise2 , I will call him tomorrow. Are you from Vegas? I did call Sliver state motorsport but they are moving so they can't work on it for atlest 2 weeks. I talk to Bill bridge Performance and they told me 1500 for valve springs install what a tool.

If I have to I will install my self and no way I will pay more then fews hundred
 

BooWFO

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1. If it is a job your incapable of doing yourself, how can you decide accurately what the job is worth?
2. I know several BIG name mod shops that charge over a 1k to so springs and cams.
3. Just because so and so got a hook up deal in his local town from his local wrench spinner does not mean that is the normal rate for the job.
4. Knowing both certified mechanics and people that have done the cam swaps I understand why it cost what it does. Also have you read what changing the valve springs is like I fully understand the cost of that.
 
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WOW that price does seem a bit steep. I did mine myself with a friend ands it wasn’t too bad. Mine were done with the heads in the car using the Ford OTC tool. This tool is expensive but well worth it. Definitely need another person while using this in order to compress the spring get the keepers back on.

Make sure whatever shop does your cams degrees them properly!!
 

hognutz

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you have to remeber some shops may just not want to do it that bad so they are going to screw you basically. maybe this guy does not like to change springs with the head on so find someone who will. shop rate should be in the $70 an hour range and it should not take more than 8hrs or so to do the job if they are good and have the right tools IMO. so as you can see that $1500 price is completely outragouse. that is like 21 hrs labor. even removing the heads that seems excessive.
 

Mike97gt

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that is way too much labor. The valve sprngs can easily be changed with the heads on.
 
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b653gunn

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You need a otc 9725 tool it lets you use the cam as a pivot point and compresses the keeper to remove the spring but yuo will have to rotate the piston the tdc and compress the cylinder with at least 100 psi at a constant.
 
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Try CP motorsports there located at the speedway
 

Miles

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I'm not saying that it's too high or too low, but I had the following done for $1,800 CDN:

- motor pulled out
- new heads installed
- new cams installed
- PI intake installed
- engine re-assembled with new valve covers
- engine put back in car
- K-member dropped
- Long tubes installed
- bumpsteer kit installed
- C/C plates installed
- an alignment

And this was at Steeda, so not some Joe Dirt shop. I'd wait for the other shop to get up and running, call around some more, or do it yourself.
 
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