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hoopty5.0

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All I know is I've built my last foxbody. If anything gets a coyote swap, it'll be my F150.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

my rearend will smell so minty fresh,
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hoopty5.0 said:
All I know is I've built my last foxbody. If anything gets a coyote swap, it'll be my F150.
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Says the 20 something with the entire rest of his life left in front of him.

Pfft.....Please!! Since getting off the boat, you've started, and bailed out on more projects than I have built in the last 12 years.
 
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hoopty5.0

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madmike1157 said:
Says the 20 something with the entire rest of his life left in front of him.

Pfft.....Please!! Since getting off the boat, you've started, and bailed out on more projects than I have built in the last 12 years.
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I didn't say I was done building stuff, I just said I was done with foxbodies. As in I plan on keeping this one around and moving on to other things. Like the F150. And a long travel golf cart with a sport bike motor
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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hoopty5.0 said:
I didn't say I was done building stuff, I just said I was done with foxbodies. As in I plan on keeping this one around and moving on to other things. Like the F150. And a long travel golf cart with a sport bike motor
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I'm done building stuff.

Maybe I'll just start paying people to do it for me
 
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stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.
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Article says it came with a complete valve train, I'm assuming that means rockers as well.
 
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Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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madmike1157 said:
I'm done building stuff.

Maybe I'll just start paying people to do it for me
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I've tried to no avail to pay Collin to come down here and put together the stuff I don't want to do... like reassembling broke turbo cars. I haven't got him to take the bait yet, but I'm not giving up.
 
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Damn,, do these things really flow 400cfm? That's insane.. However from a cost perspective, its $5k and no one is going to put them on a stock block, so add in the cost of a Dart block with all the goodies and you are now talking Coyote $$..
 

Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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mikestang63 said:
Damn,, do these things really flow 400cfm? That's insane.. However from a cost perspective, its $5k and no one is going to put them on a stock block, so add in the cost of a Dart block with all the goodies and you are now talking Coyote $$..
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Man, those heads aren't intended for the type of guy looking to street a 650 hp windsor. Those are for 1800 hp race cars that ride in an enclosed trailer.
 
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Boosted92LX said:
Man, those heads aren't intended for the type of guy looking to street a 650 hp windsor. Those are for 1800 hp race cars that ride in an enclosed trailer.
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Yep. Would be cool to build a 400"+ Windsor swinging about 9-10k rpms with those. That would be cool.
Oh and aren't the Kaase P-38 heads a canted valve also? I've seen/read the articles on those. I wonder how these compare.

Obviously these flow more(400cfm) but I don't see why not use a traditional max effort TFS high port/AFR head vs. these heads. Still cool though.
 
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I agree that they are overkill on a street car, and like the old boss cars I think they would offer horrible street performance. That engine would need to be spun hard to get the performance out of it. Probably more in line for high dollar racers or show car/ Dyno queens.
 

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mikestang63 said:
Damn,, do these things really flow 400cfm? That's insane.. However from a cost perspective, its $5k and no one is going to put them on a stock block, so add in the cost of a Dart block with all the goodies and you are now talking Coyote $$..
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You know who wants this? Remember that dude that used to post on here about his intercooled Kenne Bell install? That guy. Red car is what I remember. Held the record (may still) for fastest KB Mustang.
 
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stykthyn said:
Article says it came with a complete valve train, I'm assuming that means rockers as well.
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Ok,....$8000, instead of $10,000.

For a head swap.

At least it would reduce the number of HCI threads we see pop up here every other day.
 

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Noobz347 said:
You know who wants this? Remember that dude that used to post on here about his intercooled Kenne Bell install? That guy. Red car is what I remember. Held the record (may still) for fastest KB Mustang.
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yep. That car was sick....way overkill for most guys. I can see them in race applications...
 

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All of this said, I agree with Clay, I want these for Christmas.

Can I use them? Maybe......eventually......
 
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stykthyn

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Damn right Dave
 
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Here is the thing. Once you get to the $3k or so into SBF heads, anything significantly better is going to cost at least $5k. My AFR 220 Renegade heads flow just over 330 cfm @ .700 ...show me another head that flows 400 cfm for under $5k. Besides, those are not really a Hemi head, more like a twisted version of a Trick Flow twisted Wedge head.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.darkside.ca/images/hemi-misc-images/D5-heads/D-5-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkside.ca/node/18&docid=OjPV39DwtgOIHM&tbnid=Nq3stsov1WzEWM:&w=400&h=191&client=tablet-android-samsung&bih=800&biw=1280&ved=0ahUKEwjc5IHas-rOAhVBwGMKHd6ZCBEQMwglKAcwBw&iact=mrc&uact=8
 
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Bullitt347 said:
Here is the thing. Once you get to the $3k or so into SBF heads, anything significantly better is going to cost at least $5k. My AFR 220 Renegade heads flow just over 330 cfm @ .700 ...show me another head that flows 400 cfm for under $5k. Besides, those are not really a Hemi head, more like a twisted version of a Trick Flow twisted Wedge head.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.darkside.ca/images/hemi-misc-images/D5-heads/D-5-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.darkside.ca/node/18&docid=OjPV39DwtgOIHM&tbnid=Nq3stsov1WzEWM:&w=400&h=191&client=tablet-android-samsung&bih=800&biw=1280&ved=0ahUKEwjc5IHas-rOAhVBwGMKHd6ZCBEQMwglKAcwBw&iact=mrc&uact=8
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I can never remember the names/designations of heads past the usual tfs/afr offerings. You probably know/remember. There were a set of ford offerings that came close to those flow numbers. Were they Yates heads? C3's? I can't remember
 

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Depending on who ported them, you can see 400 cfm @ .850 lift on the Yates C3 head with it maxing out at 475+ cfm @ 1" lift. Flow @ .700 lift is aroung 370ish. Quick check found new bare C3 heads on ebay for $2,351.00 add valves, springs, retainers for an easy extra $1,500. and the price to play is about $4k
 
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The real question is, will they be emissions legal?
 
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stykthyn said:
This makes my naughty bits tingle.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/new-hemi-cylinder-heads-small-b-ford/
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Excuse me while I go buy a stack of scratch off tickets so I can make this happen.
 
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