Intake question/help/idkwtfimdoing (pic of car just 'cause)

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Hey,

Longtime lurker first time poster. I've had my Fox for almost a year now. I moved out shortly after getting it so it's taken me some time to get settled and start getting to work on it. I love the thing and I love that it's not my daily so I can spend time doing work instead of rushing to get it back on the road for Monday morning.

Anyway, I bought it with some Magnaflow pipes which I dig. Only thing I've done to it was swap out to an aluminum radiator a couple of weekends ago. The old one was leaking so I figured might as well.

Anyway, I'm looking to swap the intake with an Explorer or GT40...? The thing is I have no idea what is what. I was hoping someone could give me a quick glance guide to what I should be looking for or what I need to make the swap?......also what the deal is with EGR or no EGR? I basically need a Reader's Digest guide to this swap if someone would be kind enough to help out I would very much appreciate it.



Here's a pic of the car 'cause pics are always more fun
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The differences in the FRPP Cobra intake,Early Explorer Intakes(mostly 1996-1997 and some very early 1998 models),and the later Explorer intakes(late 1998 thru 2000)

Cobra lower-has EGR hole thru center and EGR coolant return line drilled. to eliminate/block off the EGR,from the lower,you need to get 2 pipe plugs,put one in the center EGR hole,and one in the EGR coolant return line. no drilling tapping required for the ACT sensor in runner #5.DONE.

Early Explorer lower(has center hole)- to eliminate the EGR,you'll need to plug the center hole with said pipe plug. EGR coolant return line is not drilled,so you dont need to worry about that. Drilling/tapping of the #5 runner for the ACT will be required. the early Explorer lowers have a boss on the #5 runner for this to be done.

Later Explorer lower(has no center EGR hole),has no EGR coolant return line,still needs #5 runner drilled/tapped for ACT sensor. has no boss cast in for this,but the runner itself can still be tapped,just have to be very careful cuz there is not as much "meat" as the early lowers that have the boss built in. MUST DELETE EGR.

That being said,the ACT sensor can also be relocated to the air inlet tube,a few inches in front of the throttle body,so no drilling would be needed. just pull soem slack in the wires out of the factory harness,and then plug it in. Done.

Installation:

The following modifications must be made for the intakes to bolt up to a 1987-1993 5.0 Mustang.

1. Lower Intake:

The Explorer intake has no hole for the ACT Sensor. You have two options here: Drill and tap a hole for the sensor or relocate the sensor.

You'll have to swap over all related hardware from your stock intake (temp guage sender, and hard coolant lines.)

The lower intake itself doesn't have a return port for the EGR coolant flow, so you again have two options: Drill and tap for a return port or block off the supply port on the coolant lines.


2. Upper Intake:

At the back of the stock intake, there are three vacuum ports (FPR, Emissions, and vacuum tree). At the back of the Explorer intake there are usually only two,but i have seen them come with all different vaccum setups. Use a plastic vacuum T and split one of the ports to feed both the FPR and emissions,or whatever,just as long as all vac lines are hooked up and holding vacuum
 
The deal with EGR or no EGR will come down to what state you live in, and whether you need an emissions inspection to plate/register your car. If so, go with an earlier explorer intake manifold. I live in Iowa, so we don't have an inspection.

I am doing a full GT-40P swap on my car right now. Just looking for a shop to machine my heads, clean them up and they will go on later, with the Intake Manifold.
 
Everything you could ever want to know about exploer/GT40 inte manifolds: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=551505

How to do the swap.:

Explorer intake swap.

I got mine off a 96 Mountaineer with the 19# injectors and 65 MM throttle body for $250.

The ACT (Air Charge Temp) sensor will probably need to be moved. The GT 40 lower manifold isn't drilled & tapped for it to go into the intake like the stock manifold was. There is a boss cast into the GT 40, but a machine shop will have to drill & tap the new manifold. The best spot for the ACT is the air box if you don't do the drill and tap thing. You get to cut and splice the 2 ACT wires in order to make them long enough to reach the air box. Solder the wire extensions on the existing wires & use heat shrink tubing to cover the splices. Offset the place where you cut the wires so that you don't have a big bulge when you put heat shrink over the 2 wires to cover & protect them. The air box gets a hole (5/8" or so) for the ACT drilled about 1 1/4" down & 1/1/4" in on the front top side near the upper radiator hose. A brass fitting nut from Home Depot or Ace Hardware secures the ACT into the air box.

If you are very clever, you will find that the ACT connector comes apart so that you can remove the pins. A very small screwdriver releases the lock in the front of the center insert, while another small screwdriver inserted in the back pushes it out. Once the center insert is out of the connector shell, the pins come out easily. New pins are available from AutoZone in a $5 electrical pin kit for Fords. Crimping the pins on the extender wires saves you from having to splice them twice: once to put the connector on and once to extend the wires.

6 ft black 18 gauge wire
6 ft green 18 gauge wire
6 ft 1/4" heat shrink tubing
1 ft 3/16" heat shrink tubing

Measure the 2 extender wires & cut them to length, crimp one set of pins on them. Then mate up the extender pins with the wiring harness & slide the 3/16" heat shrink tubing over them & shrink the tubing. Then slide the 1/4" heat shrink tubing over the pair of wires and shrink the tubing. When you are done you'll have about 1" of wire left without heat shrink tubing on it to strip & crimp the new pins on. Stick the new pins in the old connector shell, assemble it and you are done. It looks as good as factory. Some wire loom can be used to enhance the "Factory Look".

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Use the TPS and IAB from your old throttle body. All the EGR passages were there and fit OK. Use you old fuel rails and regulator. You will probably need a new EGR spacer adapter and gaskets. Without the EGR spacer, there is no place to mount the throttle linkage support bracket.

I used the stock water lines on the Explorer manifold and they connected up to the EGR without any problems. I made a “U” out of ½” copper pipe and sweat soldered it together. Then I used it and some hose with clamps to bypass the leaky heater.

The vacuum lines you need are 1 small line for fuel pressure regulator, 1 small line for A/C,1 small line for EGR and another small line for the smog pump. One big line at the back goes to the vacuum tree for the power brake & A/C, one big line goes to the PVC valve. The other big line goes out the front for the carbon canister. In a pinch, one of the small lines can connect to the spare port on the vacuum tree. Cap or plug the remaining lines since they aren't needed.

The stock Explorer linkage didn't come anywhere near fitting, so I made an adapter plate for the throttle linkage so I could use the 65 MM throttle body.

This is what I did:
Make a drawing of the position of the old throttle body linkage arm and its angular position relative to the centerline of the throttle body. Remove the ball stud off the explorer TB to make way for the adapter plate. Drill and tap a 10-32 hole in the linkage parallel to the TB shaft. Make an angle bracket out of 1" angle iron 3/8", drill a 3/16” hole in the center of each one of the legs. Then bolt it on where the hole was drilled & tapped. Then make a circular adapter plate out of 1/4" thick aluminum to bolt the two linkage arms together. Then bolt the aluminum plate to the existing linkage, and the angle bracket. Next mount the arm with the ball stud off the old throttle body on the adapter plate using the drawing to get the angle correct. You will need an aircraft type countersink for one of the bolts that secures the plate to the explorer linkage arm. It ends up being under the arm with the ball stud for the linkage. It works great and looks neat.

The Explorer TB could have been real simple if I had a gas welding torch or taken the TB to a welding shop. Just grind the mushroomed part of the TB shafts so that you can pry the linkage arms off. Then swap the stock arm onto the Explorer TB and braze it onto the shaft. It Takes about 3 minutes or less worth of work with the torch, so it shouldn't cost much.

I didn't have access to a welder, so I fabb'ed the plate in my shop. I took about 1.5 hours to do it, it was a measure, cut, and fit type of operation.

Also see http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/ConvertingExplorer65mmTB.pdf for modifications to adapt the 65 MM Explorer TB to a Mustang

Vacuum line connections:
One large vacuum line from the upper front goes to the carbon canister

One large vacuum line from the rear goes to the vacuum tree.

One small line in the front feeds the Smog pump solenoid control valves on the rear of the passenger side wheel well..

One small line in the rear goes to the fuel pressure regulator.

One small line in the rear goes to the EGR suction regulator.

One large line in the rear goes to the PVC valve.

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds - Typical Vacuum Routing for a Fox stang 5.0:
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Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds - Intake manifold bolt tightening sequence for a 5.0 Fox stang:
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Intake manifold to head bolts
--Step 1 96 in/lbs
--Step 2 16ft/lbs
--Step 3 23-25 ft/lbs

See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/

Here's some tips...

Tools: a good torque wrench is a must have item. A razor blade scraper that holds a single edge razor blade from Home Depot or Ace hardware is another handy thing. Get a Chilton or Haynes shop manual - you'll need it for the bolt torques and patterns. The intake manifold has an especially odd pattern. You'll need access to a timing light to set the timing after you re-stab the distributor. Look in the A/C repair section for the fuel line tools. They look like little plastic top hats. You will need the 1/2" & 5/8" ones. The hat shaped section goes on facing the large part of the coupling. Then you press hard on the brim until it forces the sleeve into the coupling and releases the spring. You may need someone to pull on the line while you press on the coupling. Put some motor oil on them when you put the line back together.

The A/C Compressor comes off with lines still connected. Mark all the electrical, smog and vacuum lines with tags to help you remember where to re-connect them. If you have a digital camera, take several pictures.

Whatever you do, don't skimp on cleaning the gasket surfaces. New gaskets need to seat against bare metal and not the residue left from the old gaskets in order to seal leak free. This is the most time consuming and tiresome part of the job. I suggest that you make good use of a shop vac while you are scraping and cleaning to avoid getting the old gasket material lost inside the engine. Look for little things that need to be replaced like the short hose from the thermostat hosing to the water pump, damaged vacuum lines and hose clamps that are rusted or broken.

Plan on cutting the thermostat to water pump hose, or removing the thermostat housing. Also plan on removing the distributor to get clearance to remove the intake manifold. Remove #1 spark plug, stick your finger in the spark plug hole and crank. When your finger gets air moving past it, stop cranking. Turn the engine until the timing marks line up with the pointer. Now you can pull the distributor out.

My favorite trick that saves time and effort is the stay in place gasket. Be sure that you scrape (don't use a wire brush) all the old gasket material off, then clean all the surfaces with acetone or MEK.

When the surfaces are clean, use weather strip adhesive on the head to manifold surface. Also use the weather strip adhesive on the side of the gasket that mates to the head. When you are done, the head surface and the gasket surface that mate together will have weather strip adhesive on them. Follow the instructions on the tube or can and when it gets tacky, press the gasket down on the head.

Clean the area where the rubber rails mount to the block in front and in the rear with more acetone or MEK and do the same trick with the weather strip adhesive that you did to the heads.

Coat the rubber seals and the gasket area around the water passages with lots of Blue Silicone gasket sealer and put it together. TADA! no leaks, and no gaskets that shifted out of place.

Fuel injector seal kits with 2 O rings and a pintle cap (Borg-Warner P/N 274081) are available at Pep Boys auto parts. Cost is about $3-$4 per kit. The following are listed at the Borg-Warner site ( http://www.borg-warner.com ) as being resellers of Borg-Warner parts:

http://www.partsplus.com/ or http://www.autovalue.com/ or http://www.pepboys.com/ or http://www.federatedautoparts.com/

Most of the links above have store locators for find a store in your area.

Use motor oil on the O rings when you re-assemble them & everything will slide into place. The gasoline will wash away any excess oil that gets in the wrong places and it will burn up in the combustion chamber. Heat the pintle caps in boiling water to soften them to make them easier to install.

Plan on doing an oil change within 2 hours of run time on the engine. This will get the debris and coolant out of the oil pan.

Consumable items:
Upper manifold gasket
Fel Pro 1250 or equal lower manifold gasket set.
Short formed hose between thermostat hosing and intake manifold
6 ft 7/64" or 1/8" vacuum hose
2 ft 1/2" heater hose
1 1/2 ft 5/8" heater hose
Blue Silicone sealer
ARP antiseize or equal for the bolts
4 each 3/4" hose clamps (spare item in case the old ones are bad)
4 each 1/2" hose clamps (spare item)

What can happen if you don’t use the stay in place gasket…

Ask Nicoleb3x3 about the intake gasket that slipped out of place and caused idle and vacuum leak problems that could not be seen or found by external examination. Spay everything with anything you have, and you won't find the leak...
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Want to wear yourself out with info on the Explorer intake manifolds? See http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-for...d-gt-40-intake-thread-56k-dont-bother.551505/
 
Cool car!
Reminds me of the police issue Stangs.
Man, I miss those....

For the Explorer intake, I just drill and tap the air temp boss, and then transfer everything over.
If you don't want to get into a big production, and prefer plug-n-play, just go for the 96-97 Explorer intake so you can swap your EGR right over.

Also, get the 65mm throttle body from the donor Explorer as well. It is very easy to convert over to a Fox as well.

For the water lines going to the EGR, those can be deleted with almost zero effort and no adverse effects.
 
Doesn't moving the air temp sensor mess up what the computer should be seeing? It seems the air box would be cooler than the inside of the manifold. I doubt it will
ever get as hot. That could run into rich air mixes under some air flow circumstances, I deduct.
To the OP, have you looked under the junk yard parts discussion thread link? A bigger MAF will be a good step with this swap. You might as well have it all breathing easy.
 
Doesn't moving the air temp sensor mess up what the computer should be seeing?


Not really. At least not during active driving.


I had my daily driver hooked up to my OBD2 scanner to read live data. The air intake sensor was in the manifold like the Mustang. As I was driving around I would notice the reading was pretty much at ambient temps. Highway speeds it was maybe a degree off.

Only time I saw it creeping up was when sitting at a dead stop idling on a warm day. As soon as I started moving it would drop down to ambient.

Your moving so much air it really doesn't have a chance to heat up much



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Wow....thanks for the replies guys. I am shocked at how much info there is available for this swap. Part of my decision to go with a Pony for my long term project was the fact that parts are readily available and the community is strong! This goes to show just that.

Now I just have to settle in, read through and digest everything here....I might take a little while to fully understand but I want to get this done pretty soon here.

A local guy is selling a GT40 intake....I haven't fully read through everything up top but I'll skim through and see if the GT40 is the best option for me.
 
If your going for just a street, mild build and not looking for a huge amount of HP for your car (320 ish), then the GT40 would be fine. I am shooting for the 300 range with my complete build. If your not swapping or changing your heads, then this would be your best option. E7 heads are very restricting.

Like I stated in my post above, find out if you have emission inspections to register your car to decide which you go with. No point in building a street car if you can't register it :) lol