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interesting air induction idea????

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cas69aus19

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hey guys,

i was thinking about fabricating a cold air intake set up for my 69 carbed 302.. i know on my toyo truck it helped out quite abit with breathablility. but that is efi.
how well will it work for carb setup????


it will most likely run down by the front valance.

how would i mount it to the carb???

just a thought if anyone has done this before.
 
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look up the setups from the old trans am serises Bosses. the ram air was suppose to be good for 1 psi boost.
 

reenmachine

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Besides the itsy-bitsy boost, you get a nice improvement from the 40 deg. cooler air you get outside instead of sucking up hot air from under the hood.

How concerned with looks are you? A snorkle-type air cleaner with dryer duct tubing going up front does the trick, and evolve from there according to desired looks and your budget.
 
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I fabbed a duct system for my supercharger to put the intake in the inner fender. Here are work pics though inner fender one isn't here..
 

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Check out this article from Ford Muscle. It wouldn't be too tough to fab up something similar to what they have here.
 

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I forgot what car show it was, but I saw an early mustang with an "underhood" scoop. It looked like an air box on the bottom side of the hood that got the air from the front grille area, real trick looking. Another idea is what the roundy round guys do. Build an airbox over the carb and have it suck air from the cowl via the firewall. It is supposedly a high pressure area at the bottom of the windshield.
 

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2nd Mustang said:
Build an airbox over the carb and have it suck air from the cowl via the firewall. It is supposedly a high pressure area at the bottom of the windshield.
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It is -- that's how your cowl vent works.
 

Red Barchetta

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2nd Mustang said:
...Another idea is what the roundy round guys do. Build an airbox over the carb and have it suck air from the cowl via the firewall. It is supposedly a high pressure area at the bottom of the windshield.
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As reenmachine said, it is. However, IMHO, I have doubts as to how effective it would be. Considering the distance between the base of the windsheild and the edge of the hood, it looks like you'd have to be moving pretty fast in order for it to build enough pressure for a cowl hood to work. When I look at a 1969 Camaro, as an example, it seems as if the distance between the windshield and hood is closer than a Mustangs.

I think if a cowl hood was effective, Shelby or Ford would have offered one back in the day. Instead, look at all of the various hoods that were offered. None of them were cowl induction. Anyone have access to a wind tunnel?
 

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The idea of removing the bogus vent deletes on both outside fenders just next to the headlights on my 70, laying some metal screen over the holes to keep bugs out and running a fresh air line to the air filter has been tempting for me in the past. Only problem is that I don't like the idea of drilling holes in my sidewalls to the engine compartment. I'm sure someone has done something like that before though.
 

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http://www.planethoustonamx.com/main/amc_ram_air__cowl_induction.htm
 

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ok i like the ideas you guys are giving but i think i am trying to go for a different approach.

i want to have the filters down by where the vents are on this link. "Ford Muscle."
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/1999/12/ramairbox/index.shtml
i would build a housing around the filter that is similiar to a k&n style intake
there would still be the holes cut in the inside fender for direct air flow.

http://www.autoanything.com/generic_pages/product_image.aspx?p_id=1913&g_id=459

as they did in the ford muscle page i would use an existing base plate that was cut down and had a round side built up with a sealed top. i could use fiberglass to form the shape and seal for the air ducts that come off of the new base.

something similiar to this.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...=B3F41DA8-18EC-4DB3-89F92605D750B64F502866625

i think i have just about everything now. with an image it makes it more clear.
 

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Let me get a pic of mine and throw it up. Fabricated from aluminum and uses the Edelbrock type air cleaner.............................

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HistoricMustang said:
Let me get a pic of mine and throw it up. Fabricated from aluminum and uses the Edelbrock type air cleaner.............................

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I would like to see a pic of yours. I would like to do a set up on mine some day.
 

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Why not just buy a hood with a ram air hood scoop rather than drill holes in the original core support or other parts.
 

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isnt that article with the ram air box and the 2 ducting that inserts into the front of the car similar to what the ford thunderbolts use to have???? looks like it to me i know those things were damn fast! lol
 

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Those of you with cowl hood may be interested in this:


Available from http://www.deltabaymustang.com/products.htm
 

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HistoricMustang

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Bump.

Hey, the wife will be out of town tomorrow and my son is now out of Houston and Rita's path so I will get photo's up Saturday on my cold air induction system.

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HistoricMustang

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Here you go, using Shelby style hood scoop. With no scoop just run at least one 3" diameter flex hose, two would be better, from under front valance into this box.

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Happy Motoring!
 

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