Is this rearend safe for the street??

UnderPressureGT · Oct 30, 2004

I took my car to the track last weds and i hurt my tracloc bad!! rather then just redo the clutches, i want to totally redo my rear end.. money IS a concern here too, but i found a complete kit which for the price is very affordable and seems tough to break\

"Strange 8.8 pro race axle packages with c-clip eliminator kit"
Pro race 33 spline axles, c-clip eliminator kit, 1/2 inch stud kit, and Pro Race Lightweight Spool for 619.00.. I will have a mechanic i know install it and swap my 3.73's out of the rear in my car now....

My concern is.. would my car still be streetable with that spool?? Of course i know that i would have to be extra careful in the rain and obviously i WILL not use dragradials in the winter, only a good winter street tire.. I have never experienced both wheels being locked soo this is why im asking.. I kinda hope it all works out because 620 for a complete rear would deffinately help me out..

Rick 91GT · Oct 30, 2004

That is a good strong set-up and the price is pretty good.....

The trac loc/limited slip would be better in the winter, slippery conditions thought. However, at the track the new rear would be near bullet proof.

UnderPressureGT · Oct 30, 2004

thanks cool, but would it be somewhat decent to drive around in all year?

ratrapp · Oct 30, 2004

spools are hard on tires and axles.i've ran mini-spools on the street and you need to avoid making sharp turns and slow speed turning sucks.it's not going to help much in the snow either.the reason it's hard on axles and tires is that it drags the inside tire and axle around a corner instead of unlocking and letting it freewheel.

QDRHRSE · Oct 30, 2004

If the car is a real driver and you have to use all the time then your answer is a definite no. Driving while wet is suicide with a spool. A spool will also cause the car to "push" and will wear tires funny.

TheDevil · Oct 30, 2004

*waiting for sirsureshot to chime in*

I wouldnt drive it at all in the winter if I could help it.

Ranchero5.0 · Oct 30, 2004

Just say no to a spool. Been there, done that. If money is an issue just spend $55 and get a trac lok rebuild kit. Takes about an hour or so to do.

Jamie

UnderPressureGT · Oct 30, 2004

well i need SOMETHING for a car planning to be in the low 11's.... stock would do??

illwood · Oct 30, 2004

I'm not sure if a stock traction-lok rear would work good if you're running in the 11's. You might end up burning out the clutches. If it's only $55 to try it out, it would probably be worth it to find out that way. 'Cause a spool isn't a good idea for a daily driver.

Other better (i.e. more expensive options).
1. Detroit locker diff.
2. Torsen style diff. (no clutches to wear, all done w/ internal gearing)
3. E-locker (open diff. until you flip a switch then a pin locks the diff. and you have a spool).

Just my thoughts

payupsucka · Oct 30, 2004

rebuild it with an eaton diff even detroit lockers are murder on the street for an every day driver

90NotchBack · Oct 30, 2004

I run a spool and love. I drive this car everyday of my life. You definably have to get use to it but once you do it's great. It's the best and cheapest thing to get for traction. And there nothing to break on it. But I think 33 spline axles is over kill for a 11 second car.

hllon4whls · Oct 30, 2004

Yeah, but try the spool in snow. Straightline traction will be great, but snow covered roads are going suk everytime you turn.

flyinghi3 · Oct 30, 2004

i have a spool in my car. yes its great for the track. if this is your daily driver i would think that you might want to really think if thats a good idea. if you lived in florida like 90notchback, i would say put the spool in. youa re living in NJ, and with snow in the winter might not be a good idea. i have gotton stuck with mine in the rain a few times and i didn't care for it. and it does eat up your tires in the rear alot quiker. mine is not a daily driver so it does not bother me that much. if it was my only car i dont think i would of put the spool in.

87'GTstang · Oct 30, 2004

90NotchBack said:
I run a spool and love. I drive this car everyday of my life. You definably have to get use to it but once you do it's great. It's the best and cheapest thing to get for traction. And there nothing to break on it. But I think 33 spline axles is over kill for a 11 second car.

You are a brave man using a spool. All a spool is, is a unit that elimiates the differential altogether. Try making a turn with one. A normal turn always has the inner tire turning at a slower rate than the outer. Now try doing it when both wheels are makeing themselves turn at the same rate. You put a tremendous amount of stress on the axles because they are trying to turn against themselves with a force that will not be able to move until something breaks. The axle wants to "walk" staright while at the same time you are trying to turn so you get a "crabbing" kind of walk and both of these actions tear the living hell out of the tires.

Either try and rebuild the stock unit (which should wear out soon with a car passing at 11 seconds), or go for and aftermarket unit like from Eaton or Auburn or something similar - but no spool unless it is a strip-only car.

flyinghi3 · Oct 30, 2004

the spool is not that bad on the street 87 gtstang. i have been driving mine on the street for about 6 years now. i wouldn't drive it in the winter. and the few times i got caught in the rain was not that fun to drive. but if its not a daily driver like mine is, and you would be hitting the track alot like i used too. then i would get it.

90NotchBack · Oct 30, 2004

I don't have to deal with snow but i don't think a spool and snow is a good ideal. I love my spool. I can make U turn and everything. Yea you do go threw tire quick but who doesn't with a mustang. I have no problems with a spool and I've been driving it everyday for 2 years. Well it's not being drivin right know. I'm putting a new motor in it.

87'GTstang · Oct 30, 2004

flyinghi3 said:
the spool is not that bad on the street 87 gtstang. i have been driving mine on the street for about 6 years now. i wouldn't drive it in the winter. and the few times i got caught in the rain was not that fun to drive. but if its not a daily driver like mine is, and you would be hitting the track alot like i used too. then i would get it.

Oh I understand that it isn't too bad for a lot of instances. A lot of people hardly ever do something like a U-turn unless you live in a city or something. But when the time comes it is amusing. A friend of mine and his 91 f150 which was a mostly off-road rock climber at one point had a spool and anytime he wanted to go around a turn sucessfully, he had to mash the gas and powerslide around the corner. A spool isn't the most idiotic idea but unless you do something with a vehicle where I would say you would be takeing advantage of it at least 60% of the time, then why get it? It however though I think is still the least street-friendly of all the options out there.

89MustangGX · Oct 30, 2004

I've got that same kit in my car, so far it's been great. I'm not putting down nearly the power yet -- but I know it will handle everything I can throw at it. And I think it's got a 5-year warantee on top of that -- I know Strange stands behind their products.

Spools aren't as bad as people make them out to be, but I wouldn't want to drive it in the winter or heavy rain. I've been caught in light rain and it wasn't terrible. I don't have problems turning -- it just takes a little wider path. It's like anything else, you know what to expect and you adjust for it.

TT91 · Oct 31, 2004

Daniel said:
*waiting for sirsureshot to chime in*

Nope, im sure you know what I would say, ill keep my comments to myself this time..

TheDevil · Oct 31, 2004

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