Yeah, really... You can make 450 with a premium H/C/I (AFRs or TWs) and a centri with less than 10psi on a conservative tune easy. That's not pushing anything hard except stock internals and the block, but considering the conservative as hell tune, RPM (keep it under 6k), and boost level, everything should hold together no problem. This is such a simple, cheap and easy combo that if I had everything to do over again, or if I built another fox it's how I'd go. God, you could find a nice Vortech or Procharger setup with intercooler in the classifieds for around $1k, and the H/C/I for another 1,500 or so. Add pipes, rockers, MAF, TB, injectors, Fuel pump, a tune, and other minor parts and you'd have a rockin' reliable setup for about $5k that will blow the doors off of just about any production car on the road. With that kind of power though, you're going to need to address the drivetrain. In short order you're going to need tires, a trans w/ clutch, probably a shifter, and axles at least - another $2500 or so. Things sure do add up fast, don't they? Wait, you haven't addressed the suspension or chassis, yet. I hope you have most of this stuff.... just wanted to make sure you were thinking about all of the incidentals that go along with a car that has this much power.
Chris
Not trying to derail the thread here, but I am curious. What is your main purpose for the car? Are we talking about a drag car that is 9 second capable or just a fun street car that runs 12's??
NOT a drag car! Don't get me wrong, I love 'em. I just want a powerful road car. One I can drive to work on Friday, or on weekends, but would do well in say, an entry level (or higher) Silver State Classic class.
My instructor's car, a GT500 with full Grigg's GR40TT suspension and slicks, ran 165 down the back straight. But after about 2 or 3 hot laps (low 2 minute range), the Shelby became heat soaked, was audibly displeased, and we were down in the high 140s on the back straight. That's a MAJOR difference.
... but the bottom line is that it's a lot easier to keep the IATs down to a reasonable level with a centrifugal than it is with a PD blower, especially on a fox.
Thanks, Sharad!
Oh... but you're both wrong... turbo is the only way to go!
Here we go!
FWIW, I'd be going turbo, but quite frankly I don't want to wrestle with the piping. I REFUSE to pay someone else to do my install!
Had about the same money in my turbo kit as my S trim setup, just saying....also went back to a blower after trying out the turbo, also...just saying...
Btw, turbo install isnt much more work then blower install.
Are you trying to convince me, or yourself? Because I know better.
Something else to think about. Adding displacement to a stock 302 via stroker assembly will increase over all cylinder volume and considerably lower projected boost levels. This means the blower can be spun faster in order to make up the difference, without significantly superheating the air charge. This works especially well for the Kenne Bell compressors, as they tend to reach peak adiabatic efficiency levels at higher blower speeds.
For those really worried about heat, remember…..water/methanol injection does wonders for any application.....so controlling heat on the street doesn't have to be an issue.
Do a search for 92rohcp's A2A KB build. His car made 431rwhp/524lbs ft/tq with the stock 302cid before splitting the block. He's now running a 363ci stroker. The power must be emence!?!?!?!
A couple of his drive by video’s
YouTube - Kenne Bell 363 A2A Mustang drive by‏
YouTube - Kenne Bell Mustang 363 A2A‏
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