It amazes me how Ford can't keep pictures off the internet. Just takes a few mad ex-employees to get the pink slip and start giving out information on future products.
That's the real deal. It has the V6 wheels on it. The GT's are different.
How many would buy the new 05 GT if it came with the following powertrain? This is just a hypothetical question.
Had a 4.6L 3V, VCT 300HP.
Weighed in at 3,800+lbs. GT trim.
Had drive by wire ETC-Electronic throttle control.
New torque based strategy that would not allow mods that increased torque. If you did it would put the car in FAILSAFE drive condition.
That means going to the dealer and having them reset the PCM.
A PCM with no chip port like on the new 04 F150.
That also means the tuners and chip suppliers are going to have to work to decode a all new calibration. That is going to take time to decode and offer a reflash to change the torque tables in the strategy for mods.
Ford's upper management really F'd this one up. 75% of the GT buyers mod or customize their mustangs.
Imagine buying the new 05 and not being able to add a performance exhaust or add any part that increases torque.
They messed up a good thing. We make it look fast, add a second intake valve and VCT and the management blows it by adding a crappy ETC and a strategy not mod friendly. The 03/04 Machs are still faster in the 1/4. The new manual trans stinks also...
You can bet they aren't going to have that information in their brochures.
I will keep my current Mustang. At least I can still do the basic backyard mechanic stuff and be happy I can customize what I pay for....
Bill Ford hasn't a clue that his management has messed this car up. What if the car has a two piece drive shaft like the Lincoln LS?
75% of the customers that buy the GT's like to customize their mustangs. Ford management is out of touch with the public, and this will soon be evident.
Management only likes to see pie charts and numbers. They don't get on here or go to mustang meets to talk to the loyal Mustang owners. The Cheif Engineer and her Boss haven't a clue what the mustang enthusiast is about.
The 05 Mustang would have been so much better if they would have let the engineers run with the project. Instead they made them build a car with one arm tied behind their backs...They wanted it to be as fast as the Mach's.
This Chief engineer in charge of the 05 Mustang has Micro-Managed the Powertrain departments to the point that nothing is getting done. They are just spinning their wheels, not enough people and to much work falling off the tables due to job cuts.
People are being let go to save $$$. Ford will be paying double the cost on warranty repairs down the road.
Those of you that have your Mach's, keep them. It's the best N/A Mustang we ever built. The new 05 will handle. When the new Camaro SS hit's the street it's going to kick the 05 GT's azz...
300HP 4.6L in a heavier mustang isn't going to cut it. Looks only go so far on the street. "Race on Sunday, Buy on Monday."
I'm a Ford man thru & thru and it pains me to see what Managements decisions are doing to the company. This car could have been a great contender on the track and street.
POST3:
This is just a hypothetical response. I'm bound by a confidentiality agreement. I need my job. I hope they let me go. I can't stand this place any longer...
a.) The Powertrain Calibration Chief Engineer for the 05 Mustang is a Woman. I don't need to list her name. She is in charge of small & large V6, V8 North American car and truck powertrain calibration organization.
B.) I was in the same building along with the Mustang calibration engineers. Now moved. Might not be here much longer. Ford will be letting more people go so upper management could get their bonus and raises. It was "let people go, or get nothing at the end of the year." Is what I heard. Makes sense to let the workers go so the money is there to keep the management employed.
C.) Longer wheel base = more body metal. Larger axle housing with rear pan hard bar. Two piece steel drive shaft like on the LS. Added engine weight due to newly designed components. Interior sound deadning. Auto trans is worst case, heavier than the Manual trans.
D.) It's not the same trans that's in the 03/04 Mach or cobra. 6 speed? The shifter in the manual feels like crap. JMHO...
ryanrule said:is it real or made up?
ryanrule said:is it real or made up?
ryanrule said:is it real or made up?
CatmanJJ said:Just a thought but remember how before the new F150 arrived they leaked some towing numbers out and then Nissan released their official numbers for the Titan which were a lil better only to see Ford come back and release their offcial numbers that indeed showed they actually had better numbers anyway. ...
...well maybe they're just doin a similar thing with the Stang, I mean just beein sneaky about it cause they know how much of a following the new Stang has. That way when the official numbers are released we'll all be surprised and happy.Like I said, just a though.
We all know how bad hiney the new F150 is, and we all know how much R/D went into that vehicle, if Ford is puttin a fraction of that R/D into the Stang, I think we'll be happy...just think how long it's been in development too.
I bet all the execs are just look at this and laughing their asses off.
ttown said:Let's hope it's not 3800lb's maybe Ford is following the GM lead by making a new Grand AM and calling it a GTO that weighs over 3800lbs. Surly the wider wheelbase wouldn't increase the weight to Cobra weight.
66Satellite said:I'm sure it is real. This is the trend with modern vehicles--more weight, more electronics. It might be true that 75% of people mod their Mustangs, but I bet it's mostly appearance type stuff, especially for newer cars still in warranty. For those people who do try to get more HP out of their engines (beyond fart pipes and chips) I'm sure the aftermarket will figure out work-arounds to many of the issues mentioned.
I will keep my current Mustang. At least I can still do the basic backyard mechanic stuff and be happy I can customize what I pay for....
read it againmanicmustangman said:The guy complains that there won't be any aftermarket parts for it when it comes out. Isn't that the way it is with all new models?
Black2001GT said:The Stangers that I know mod for power first, then mod for looks. I could argue that the most popular mods for the present day Mustang is gears, pullies, timing adjuster, intake mods, headers, mid pipes, cat back, mufflers, and forced induction or Nitrous. Apperance mods are next in line.
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