LS1 Vs LT1

bobbys9350 · Apr 12, 2005

eec4tuner said:
What about the ls-4 in the gto's?

they have LS2, and ive HEARD over 400HP

mackey · Apr 12, 2005

An ls1 with some cheap bolt ons and a cam is good for over 400rwhp.

darthcual · Apr 12, 2005

I have been beat and have beaten some camaros in my area and either way its good for me cuz if they hand me my azz well they got a bigger engine, and if i win, well they got a bigger engine. I love it when they ask me if I have a supercharger! The look on their faces when I say no, Priceless.

just4bob50 · Apr 12, 2005

near stock Ls1's with sticky tires and 6-spd can do high 12's

Gremlin5.0 · Apr 12, 2005

LS1's are wicked motors. my friend with a stock 2000 automagic with 140k miles. ran a 13.4.

I know heads/cam on those cars is out of this world.

mootang · Apr 12, 2005

the ls2 is a 6.0L engine

ALMOSTFINISHED · Apr 12, 2005

While everyone is on the topic of numbers, my friend has a 99 z28 auto, factory gearing and all. I installed an electric cutout and a lid and the car ran consistant 12.8's in the quarter, can even get the car sideways if you mash it doin about 60 mph. Fast car. I like em alot, thats why its on the list to get one pretty soon.

Nick

huRACEmentPSR · Apr 12, 2005

ok....so i know that the 350 is gm's trademark motor. the 289/302 has always been fords mustang-based motor. gm however, has almost always had the 350, but ford stuck to a 302 until 96. then they downsized to a 4.6 mod motor. yes, that are great motors, but why downsize? imagine if they would have made the standard gt motors a 351 pushrod or mod? or even made the 5.4 mod standard. gm wouldnt have a chance

DarkMesa8 · Apr 12, 2005

huRACEmentPSR said:
ok....so i know that the 350 is gm's trademark motor. the 289/302 has always been fords mustang-based motor. gm however, has almost always had the 350, but ford stuck to a 302 until 96. then they downsized to a 4.6 mod motor. yes, that are great motors, but why downsize? imagine if they would have made the standard gt motors a 351 pushrod or mod? or even made the 5.4 mod standard. gm wouldnt have a chance

Look what happens when you stick an expensive 350 or 346 into a pony car.

Where'd they go?

Mustangs have always outsold F-bodies, in the final years it was like 3-1.

Ford's modular motor cost a lot to research and develop, but look at the fleet of modular cars now. All GM can do is up their displacement in hopes to catch up with the GT's 5.4L. The 03/04 Cobra motor certainly laid waste to the LS1s with only 281 ci.

And don't give me this supercharger vs N/A crap. If its factory stock, its factory stock.

5o5speed · Apr 12, 2005

I've also heard that Ls1 and Lt1's respond well to simple bolt-ons and cam swaps but you don't see too many of them that are supercharged because they don't respond to well.

mackey · Apr 12, 2005

DarkMesa8 said:
And don't give me this supercharger vs N/A crap. If its factory stock, its factory stock.

If you put the highest model mustang (cobra) why not pair it against the highest model ls1? (Z06) They are both on equal playing fields and the Z06 would win. And that is motor vs supercharger.

mackey · Apr 12, 2005

5o5speed said:
I've also heard that Ls1 and Lt1's respond well to simple bolt-ons and cam swaps but you don't see too many of them that are supercharged because they don't respond to well.

Most ignorant comment I have heard in this thread so far. They respond really well to superchargers. Most people are happy with the 400rwhp+ street car that is all motor and can beat 99% of the cars on the road. LS1's with blowers and turbos are insane. I've seen the cars do 9's on the stock block, and they don't crack in half

The reason is they are more expensive. Not that they don't respond well.

88stangmangt · Apr 12, 2005

88_GT_5_oh said:
wish ford would have stuck with a the pushrod motor................ with those cars don't you have to drop the motor out under the car?

hahah a dual over head can motor is way better than a push rod motor..............still a svt cobra motor 03+ will own either one..........

goinbigger · Apr 12, 2005

Actually they have gotten up to 8.8's on a stock block.
Funny thing, first post. I am picking up a 91 gt this weekend. I wrecked my 98 z28 a few months ago. I was on here doing some research on what I could do to the new stang and came across this. If you want to know about the LS1, go to www.LS1tech.com there are some very, very sick cars on there and a wealth of info. One of my buddies was joking saying the first thing I should do with the stang is throw the LS1 I have in the garage in there, and get plates that say "bowtie". LOL Mine was a very fun car to drive. With a lid and a dynomax ultraflow mine made 340rwhp/360tq. Behind a t-56. Ran a 13.1 stock w/ a 2.0 short time. Then I put on longtubes and a 150 shot, never got the chance to dyno it. Ran a 12.8@118 I was scared of snapping the tiny 10 bolt so I never put any sticky tires on it. A guy in a vw golf cut me off and put me underneath a gaurdrail on my way to work one morning. So I bought a massive truck. I have been craving some speed lately so decided to pick up the stang. Going to need some work to get it to where the camaro was but that's half the fun of the sport! I'll be on here a lot researching parts. All that research on the camaro and now I have to start all over again. LOL oh well.
Later.

Sicarius428 · Apr 12, 2005

To compare Z06 to any Mustang Cobra is like comparing a Viper or Ford GT to a SS... Definately not in the same class car.
Kevin

95GTAODE · Apr 12, 2005

bluevenom867 said:
The LS1 is like the Ford Celveland of the early 70's,only with much more technology and a lot less wieght,and is made by GM.

Blasphemy!

huRACEmentPSR · Apr 12, 2005

DarkMesa8 said:
Look what happens when you stick an expensive 350 or 346 into a pony car.

Where'd they go?

Mustangs have always outsold F-bodies, in the final years it was like 3-1.

Ford's modular motor cost a lot to research and develop, but look at the fleet of modular cars now. All GM can do is up their displacement in hopes to catch up with the GT's 5.4L. The 03/04 Cobra motor certainly laid waste to the LS1s with only 281 ci.

And don't give me this supercharger vs N/A crap. If its factory stock, its factory stock.

oh i fully agree with what youre saying. espically with the 03/04 cobras. they are i think .2 seconds slower than a zo6 vette in the 1/4, cost much less, can fit 4 or 5 people, sound way nicer, and look hands down better. all im saying is imagine how badly ford would waste GM IF there was a larger all aluminium motor. i think there would be no contest. thats all i was trying to say

Paul Perreca · Apr 12, 2005

its still a camaro or a firebird lol
Not as cool as a mustang lol

huRACEmentPSR · Apr 12, 2005

im with paul. IMHO i think f-bodies are hideous. GM could at least took some stlying cues from the classics......which by the way.....IMHO agian, were not nearly as nice looking as mustangs.

DarkMesa8 · Apr 12, 2005

mackey said:
If you put the highest model mustang (cobra) why not pair it against the highest model ls1? (Z06) They are both on equal playing fields and the Z06 would win. And that is motor vs supercharger.

I'll see your ZO6, and raise you a Ford GT.

The LS1 isn't in a Z06, the LS7 is.

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