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Might get a 86 GT...Difference in engine?

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85_SS_302_Coupe

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narib2008 said:
I understand however 3500 for a near mint all orignal 5.0 with 54k miles?Heres pics
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I didn't mean that as an insult...and $3500 is a steal for a car that clean, low miles or not. I'm just stating that out of all the roller 302's i think the '86 is the worst of them mainly because of the pistons. It's pretty straight forward even to swap the crappy heads and intake off of it and maybe even a better cam but you either have to notch the pistons (not a big fan myself) or rebuild the engine with different pistons...which unless you're planning to build an engine you would be better off going to a junkyard and getting an Explorer 302 and bolting the whole thing in. Not only will you pick up mass air but also better heads, better intake, and pistons that have enough valve relief to run around a .550 lift cam depending on duration.

It's not a bad motor, it's just the bottom of the list compared to the rest of their generation.
 
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I have given it some though guys...im gonna probably go check it out.If i did any kind of engine work at all.I would build a motor on the side while driving this daily.So in reality its not that big of an issue.
 

85_SS_302_Coupe

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Yeah i don't think anyone's saying the engine is going to spontaneously combust or anything, just that you're gonna be limited on what you can upgrade on it.
 

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Flavadave4 said:
Give me his phone number so i can buy it...
Dont listen to Ryan about the junkyard fan shroud either, if he could read he would realize that they marked what temp the water was mixed to, and what date they did it.
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you know it could be....when i bought a inner fenders for my car they marked 8-07 on them in a yellow marker.... for the month and year bought.


there's alot of "could be's" for it....wouldn't hurt to hit the deck and have a quick look at the frame rails either.
 

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The fan shroud says -30 on 10/02 thats coolant info.

The car is clean and worth the price even if it had 154k
 

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dont want to jack the thread or anything but will the 85 gt's hang with the 86-93 ones??
 

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drivers race IMHO
 

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85hatchgt said:
dont want to jack the thread or anything but will the 85 gt's hang with the 86-93 ones??
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drivers race IMHO
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Yeah, driver's race. The '87+ cars sport about 10hp more but the 85 and older cars are also a couple hundred pounds lighter depending on model and trim options.
 

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Am I wrong, or didn't the '86 GT's take a horsepower DROP from the '85 motors when they dropped the wedge heads in favor of those "turbo swirl" turds...? (Last I read, the '85 GT's had 210 and the '86 had 200, and then the '87 had 225 with the E7 heads and different cam/pistons.)
 

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Darkwriter77 said:
Not true. You can throw E7's and an 87-93 HO cam on a low-po shortblock with flattop pistons and still be safe. Guys with Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, and Town Cars have been doing it for years without any problem. Although, yes, the clearances are tight and the compression ratio is a bit different, it's still easily do-able and doesn't require any modification, as long as you're running a stock '86 to '93 cam. If you go poking an E303 or something else like that in there, though, all bets are off...
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Read my post i said anything other than E7's. I posted on fep about putting Gt40p's on my 86 block and it cant be done. My engine builder said it wouldnt work either.
 

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narib2008 said:
I understand however 3500 for a near mint all orignal 5.0 with 54k miles?Heres pics
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Hey, buy that car!!!

then i'll give yo $4K for it so you could make a quick $500!!!
 

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yeah the 86's were the crappiest of the bunch with the E6 heads and intake.
 

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What ever happened with this car? I was actually going to go look at the same exact car, but I had to go out of town for work. I have the same pictures. The asking price in the ad I saw was $4,500 though.
 

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Okay, I'm having a brain fart ... was it just the upper plenum, or was it the upper AND lower intakes (or was it just the lower?) that were different between the '86 and '87-'93 H.O.'s?
 

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I'm pretty sure the lower casting carried on through the years. The upper definitely did change though.
 

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After further research the upper was different.
 

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narib2008 said:
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no offence to you, but it's funny to think that some people have never heard of a power washer ya know
 
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