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Mods needed for a GT to beat the LS1 guys!

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HoustonGT

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Well, once again this lonely GT pulled away from yet another LS1 on a closed road course, making it 2 in a row from a roll!

- First one was a Black LS1 trans-am 6spd w/ a catback and probably nothing else. Done from a 40mph roll and ended up about 1/2 car ahead.
- Second was a Midnight Blue LS1 Z28 A4 w/ a catback as well and i think that was it. Done from a 40-60mph roll, pulled more than a car and couldve been more. Guy was stunned and wanted to do it again. 3 times total with same results

So i guess it takes the following mods to a 99-04 GT to walk away:

* O/R X-Pipe
* Catback
* JLT RAI
* Accufab 75mm TB
* C&L Upper Plenum
* Aftermarket Clutch
* 3.73's
* Short Shifter
* Extra weight of a sound system
* GOOD Driver

Woot! Wonder what will happen after some LT's, cams, and a tune

Disclaimer: I may have been lucky and ready to hear the LS1 guys deny this to the death but i would think that racing 2 different LS1 cars with different transmissions and from a roll takes away a freak occurance and driver error.

BTW, i trap 105 on street tires in street trim (chrome 18's and lowered ~2") if it sounds far fetched to pull from a roll.

I just wanted to give us GT guys some hope and show that LS1's are by no means untouchable for a bolt-on GT as long as they are close to stock, if they start modding, we need a blower to even stay close
 
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spitfirees20

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What about those gears you have?
 

DocG

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A 4.6 would need divine intervention since the LS1 is touched by the hand of God!

I've seen lots of bolt-on GT's beat LS1's.....they're very nice motors....but by no means untouchable.
 

HoustonGT

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spitfirees20 said:
What about those gears you have?
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Doh! FIXT!
 

d98gt

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You need to pick you up a set of light rims man. It's bad enough that you spin those damn heavy 18s, so a 15" lightweight rim with some sticky tires would help

I believe I saw that you are selling those cobras, correct?
 

HoustonGT

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d98gt said:
You need to pick you up a set of light rims man. It's bad enough that you spin those damn heavy 18s, so a 15" lightweight rim with some sticky tires would help

I believe I saw that you are selling those cobras, correct?
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Sure am and i hope the black 18" saleens weigh a bit less since they aren't chrome. I have my GF's 15" v6 rims for the track to mount my DR's on

Know anyone that wants 18" Chrome Cobra R's? lol
 

d98gt

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Sure, I'll take them if you can take notes It blows being a broke ass student man Find someone to buy my bullitts and i'll buy your Rs

Now when it comes time for a NPI GT to beat an LS1 guy it takes even less mods. You'll simply need:
A NEW CAR
 

02LaserRed2V

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HoustonGT said:
I just wanted to give us GT guys some hope and show that LS1's are by no means untouchable for a bolt-on GT as long as they are close to stock, if they start modding, we need a blower to even stay close
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And if they have bolt ons AND is spraying, you better have a forged bottom end running lots of boost. I learned the hard way.
 
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spitfirees20

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d98gt said:
Sure, I'll take them if you can take notes It blows being a broke ass student man Find someone to buy my bullitts and i'll buy your Rs

Now when it comes time for a NPI GT to beat an LS1 guy it takes even less mods. You'll simply need:
A NEW CAR
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Oh we will see soon enough
 

HoustonGT

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02LaserRed2V said:
And if they have bolt ons AND is spraying, you better have a forged bottom end running lots of boost. I learned the hard way.
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Yea, then its not even fair really. I wish i could have about 400rwhp N/A and be in the 500's with a 100 shot without being afraid to blow everything up
 
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HoustonGT said:
Yea, then its not even fair really. I wish i could have about 400rwhp N/A and be in the 500's with a 100 shot without being afraid to blow everything up
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Very true....LOL......weight reduction is the key.......get that car lighter and you can stop playing with LS1's and start playing with Z06's........It took a full bolt on LS1 with cam to finally get me..........car weighs 3150 with me in it and runs 12.5-12.6 with DR's @ 105-106........he only got me on the big end.....his car weighed about 600-700 more lbs too........then that 270rwhp will fell more like 350........

"ED"
 

jasonh_86

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Nice inspirational thread

I can't wait to run into a bolt-on LS1 now that i've got the cams, headers, 4.10's and all that good stuff
 
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Xcessiv

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A race against my friend's stock LS1: video.

They're beatable.
 

stangman

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none ever want to race me
 

65fastback2+2

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d98gt said:
Now when it comes time for a NPI GT to beat an LS1 guy it takes even less mods. You'll simply need:
A NEW CAR
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Thats why I got the mach instead of a plain GT...that way...I dont have to worry about maro's
 

blackfang

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Good kill!

They are beatable, but it takes alot and the ones you beat have minimal mods. A bolt on LS1 is capable of 350-375 rwhp and run's 11's. I have seen LS1's with full exhaust, lid and a tire run 12.7's
 

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blackfang said:
Good kill!

They are beatable, but it takes alot and the ones you beat have minimal mods. A bolt on LS1 is capable of 350-375 rwhp and run's 11's. I have seen LS1's with full exhaust, lid and a tire run 12.7's
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so have I, most of them are quick cars, but I think if you get a slow driver in a quick car, it doenst match up to swell.

Still, nice defeat you had in ur dream......Im thinking some 4.30's in my car, swapping out my bbk cold air for a jlt ram air, and some other doo dads and getting my 12.9999
 
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