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MONTE CARLO BAR PROBLEMS!

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malcons66

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i just got my monte carlo bar from cj pony parts, doesnt quite fit. i can see how it would fit if i could push it down really hard.it just seems like the angles of the platforms on the ends are slightly off from the angle of the engine bay.anyone else have this problem? how did you correct it?? thanks
 

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You will probably have to support the car with axle stands under the frame rails at or slightly behind the firewall for a couple days to let the front end drop down and the shocktowers splay back out to where they were 40 years ago.
 
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Yeah Jack up the car from the crossmember and walk away for a while and let the shock towers expand. Now you can see how important it is to have a bar. If you don't already have one, you might consider getting the shock tower brace which connects to the firewall too... Get the heavy duty one if you do.
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Did this to mine last weekend. Jacked it up from the cross member just high enough to get the tires off. Then started working the bar in. Might have helped to have some longer bolts to get it started, but was ok with the originals after some pushing and shoving. A second set of hands would have been helpful too.

I will fit and looks great.
 

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Yup, you have a saggy front end, typical. Just like any chick with big headlights, they ain't in the same position 40 years later.
 

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hahaha ok col ill try that one
 
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Like everybody asid, jack it up by the engine crossmember, but F.Y.I., the 67-68 should use a different bar that has become available with the correct contours. I imagine before long there will be a 69 up bar becuase these engine compartments are NOT the same.
 

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I had the same problem with my '66 and '67. Just like everyone says - raise it by the crossmember and let it "relax" for a while. If you need a little more might try to loosen the bolts on the export brace.

I would not raise it by the frame rails because this would be similar to having the car resting on the tires (like it been doing for the last 40 years).
 

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The crossmember is bolted to the frame rails, so it's the same thing.
 

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hmm...then where?
 

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Aft of the firewall, as that's the fulcrum where the frame rails pivot up.
 

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ok cool. well its dark here now so tomorrow is going to be a fun day of modding. ill also be ordering some parts for my nitrous setup..cant wait
 

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krash kendall said:
You will probably have to support the car with axle stands under the frame rails at or slightly behind the firewall for a couple days to let the front end drop down and the shocktowers splay back out to where they were 40 years ago.
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Bingo!

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krash kendall said:
The crossmember is bolted to the frame rails, so it's the same thing.
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Well, everything bolts up to or welds to the frame eventually. It more related were these forces are applied and how they act on the system as a whole.

Overall, I believe you will derive more benefit (flex) from applying pressure to a single point in the center of the "box" than on its sides. This works on the principal that everything will give or flex somewhat under the weight of the vehicle and will vary based on where the force is coming from.

Another way to make a Monte Carlo bar fix is to use a frame/body shop hydraulic or ratchet type spreader, but most people don't have access to this tool.
 

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yeah im working out of the parkinglot in my apt. lol
 
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