More T-45 Blues..Any suggestions?

[cougar694u]

If your shifter is adjust properly, it doesn't hurt to have redundancy for saftey purposes.

These stops look like screws on either side of the shifter, and keep you from putting too much pressure on the transmission when power/speed shifting. When you go to 3rd you should have about 0.030" of clearence between teh shifter and the stop, same in 2nd. This will allow it to be all the way in gear and NOT rest against the stop.

 

[Ghostface]

my T45 has 82K on it. NEVER had a problem with second popping out or grinding even in cold weather. I have a tri-ax and using whatever tranny oil Ford dealer uses. Although 5th and reverse grinds on occasion.

 

[DerekStangGT]

that's his way of getting a free post while he tracks this thread



anyway, does your shifter have adjustable stops in it?

WINNAR! although i couldnt care less about post count

anyway, my T-45 is so bad that i cant get into 1st or second at a stop unless i cycle to 4th, then 3rd, 2nd, 1st. then i can start driving. somtimes when im stopped and im shifting into 4thm it grinds BAD. my clutch is fully in when it grinds

 

[9646gt]

Ok Mikez28 I am going to trust you on this as you have been a great deal of help to me in the past..OK..I have the Hurst shifter..don't know why the previous owner installed it but for some reason he did...It is surrounded by a boot when I remove it..I have no clue what these stops look like or anything..can someone please post a pic of them in a hurst or similar? If mine has them Mike I will follow your advice and remove them all together..I CAN"T afford to tear up this tranny right now as I am without a job and this grinding and popping is annoying as hell!

 

[bluestreak_96gt]

i have a similar problem.... i have a pro 5-0 shifter, and adjusted the stops, yet the problems still occur.. when shifting fast, going into 3rd.. wel.. it just doesn't go.. when i slam it in and pop the clutch it grinds and doesn't stick, but when i do it normally its fine (with a small shine noise)


My stang does the same thing when shift fast into 3rd, what the hell. It shift great when regular driving, but when racing. The son of a gun grinds, what gives and is there any ways the fix it? I have no other problems with the other gears, just 3rd.

 

[9646gt]

Bump...

 

[green_fow_six]

Ok Mikez28 I am going to trust you on this as you have been a great deal of help to me in the past..OK..I have the Hurst shifter..don't know why the previous owner installed it but for some reason he did...It is surrounded by a boot when I remove it..I have no clue what these stops look like or anything..can someone please post a pic of them in a hurst or similar? If mine has them Mike I will follow your advice and remove them all together..I CAN"T afford to tear up this tranny right now as I am without a job and this grinding and popping is annoying as hell!

I have had my Hurst billet shifter on for 4 years and some 80000 miles of hard driving and have had no problems whatsover. I have the bump stops adjusted properly but try what MikeZ28 said first. Nothing wrong with your shifter. I would shoot you some pics but my car is at the mechanics, getting a blower installed

 

[Mike97gt]

I have a 2001 GT, and when I installed my MGW, I was explicitly told to use the bump stops. There were detailed instructions on how to adjust the stops so that your transmission always goes into gear fully when shifted, and it's worked great for me for about 5000 miles already. I don't even hit the bump stops during regular or mildlt hard shifting. Only time I ever touch them is when I am banging gears hard. I've never had any grinding problems, except for when I accidentally hit the power seat button with my leg and slide my seat back, and don't push the clutch in far enough for 4th. That's just my personal experiences; I am happy with the way it works. I don't know if it's bad for the trans or not the way I have it set up right now, but it works for me.

I am going to change the fluid for sure when I do my clutch, and am wondering about the reccomended capacity and fluid type as well. Is there any Lucas or Trans-X type stuff to add? What type of fluid is best? What is the best way to get all of the old fluid out of the trans? I like it to be nice and fresh. Sorry to jack the thread!

IF they are setup right they will not cause a problem. IF is a big thing here. some people may not be be able too judge what is the right adjustment. and 99 percent of mechanics will not care less and just set it up any old way.

plus even if it is setup right they can come loose and cause problems.

my car will not have them. any shifter i install will not have them.

 

[Mike97gt]

Ok Mikez28 I am going to trust you on this as you have been a great deal of help to me in the past..OK..I have the Hurst shifter..don't know why the previous owner installed it but for some reason he did...It is surrounded by a boot when I remove it..I have no clue what these stops look like or anything..can someone please post a pic of them in a hurst or similar? If mine has them Mike I will follow your advice and remove them all together..I CAN"T afford to tear up this tranny right now as I am without a job and this grinding and popping is annoying as hell!

sorry i forgot too check up on this one.

ok see the 4 bolts around the edge of the boot.. well remove those.. then when your looking down on the shifter you will see them. if your shifter has them they will be one in the front and one in the back sticking thru the top of the shifter tower.. you should be able too tel what they are by looking at them. . they will be the only threaded thing stiicking thru the tower. and it will be obvious that are intended too contact the shifter.

ok now i have too say this. if it is poping out on you now, then you already might have permanent damage. if thats the case this will not help and shift fork replacement is what you will need. then you can thank those two little nut and bolts for your problems.

i am not the one that came up with this fix. it's a TBS from tremec transmissions and has been out for a little while. tremec would not issue this tsb if there was no reason for it.

 

[9646gt]

sorry i forgot too check up on this one.

ok see the 4 bolts around the edge of the boot.. well remove those.. then when your looking down on the shifter you will see them. if your shifter has them they will be one in the front and one in the back sticking thru the top of the shifter tower.. you should be able too tel what they are by looking at them. . they will be the only threaded thing stiicking thru the tower. and it will be obvious that are intended too contact the shifter.

ok now i have too say this. if it is poping out on you now, then you already might have permanent damage. if thats the case this will not help and shift fork replacement is what you will need. then you can thank those two little nut and bolts for your problems.

i am not the one that came up with this fix. it's a TBS from tremec transmissions and has been out for a little while. tremec would not issue this tsb if there was no reason for it.

First chance I get (maybe today I hope) I will be pulling out the shifter to see if it has them in there or not..I guess that is why I did not see them right off the bat is becuase I never removed the actual boot from the shifter..But I will post back my results and hopefully there isn't any damage to the forks..if so what am I looking at to repair this problem? Once again Mike thanks for the help and I think we need to try and get a sticky of this post and help others save a lot of time and money! Maybe the t45 isnt such a POS as the previous owner was a POS

 

[AirWolf87]

i had the same popping out of 2nd gear on downshifts too on my old t-45. If you just keep slight pressure on the shifter during the downshift, it should stay in gear.

I also blew that tranny cuz I didnt have a shifter with bump stops...i slammed 3rd gear, hyperextended the fork and broke it...taking the gearbox with it. The screws will help stop the shifter befor you do any damage to the fork.

 

[9646gt]

Well I removed the stops from the shifter and no more popping out of second OR grinding going into 2nd at high rpm! It did at first but the tranny was not warm at all...the second and every other attempt afterwards were perfect...I couldn't be happier..I kept the stops incase I later decide to sell the shifter to get a triax or mgw shifter ..once again thanks for the help and we should sticky this thing!

 

[9646gt]

Ok..here is a bit of an update..After extensive driving in town I find my problem is not yet eliminated like i thought..but has been reduced greatly...so am I going to need a new shift fork? What exactly does this part do and where is it located? Inside the tranny? Outside? How much am I looking at to fix it and are there more durable perfomance ones?..Open to opinions guys..

 

[Mike97gt]

Well I removed the stops from the shifter and no more popping out of second OR grinding going into 2nd at high rpm! It did at first but the tranny was not warm at all...the second and every other attempt afterwards were perfect...I couldn't be happier..I kept the stops incase I later decide to sell the shifter to get a triax or mgw shifter ..once again thanks for the help and we should sticky this thing!

one again glad too help.

 

[Orions98GT]

which tranny does my 98 have in it? how can I tell?

 

[Mike97gt]

Ok..here is a bit of an update..After extensive driving in town I find my problem is not yet eliminated like i thought..but has been reduced greatly...so am I going to need a new shift fork? What exactly does this part do and where is it located? Inside the tranny? Outside? How much am I looking at to fix it and are there more durable perfomance ones?..Open to opinions guys..

ok whats it doing now. the grinding at high rpm's going into second or any other gear is related too clutch adjustment..

to fix that problem get a aftermarket quadrant and firewall adjuster. and adjust the clutch untill the car wont move and the rpm's dont drop as you let the clutch up. it should only start too engage after you move atleast a 1 1/2 when it's adjusted right the clutch will be fully engaged right near the top of the pedal.

the shift fork is only related too the undershifts (poping out of gear)

 

[Mike97gt]

i had the same popping out of 2nd gear on downshifts too on my old t-45. If you just keep slight pressure on the shifter during the downshift, it should stay in gear.

I also blew that tranny cuz I didnt have a shifter with bump stops...i slammed 3rd gear, hyperextended the fork and broke it...taking the gearbox with it. The screws will help stop the shifter befor you do any damage to the fork.

the t-45 has shift stops built in.. wow some people just refuse too belive me. i am getting this info right from tremec. plus i have had these damm trannys apart.

 

[Mike97gt]

which tranny does my 98 have in it? how can I tell?

T-45 all 98 gt 5 speeds had a t-45

 

[9646gt]

Mike I have to really slam it to keep it from popping out of second..as far as I have been able to test the grind at high rpm seems to not be there any more as long as its warmed up..but I still have some pop out of gear ...I see the shift forks from 50restro.com are only like 30 bux...how hard is it to change the forks? Do I need to drop the tranny ( begging you 2 say no lol) ? I may jsut end up replacing it right away if you think it will solve the issue before I cause more damage..till then I am going to try and not gear down any..hopefully its not my syncromesh tranny fluid..at 5 bux a qt I hate to have to drain it and put regular back in ...

Thanks for all the help so far..

 

[Mike97gt]

Mike I have to really slam it to keep it from popping out of second..as far as I have been able to test the grind at high rpm seems to not be there any more as long as its warmed up..but I still have some pop out of gear ...I see the shift forks from 50restro.com are only like 30 bux...how hard is it to change the forks? Do I need to drop the tranny ( begging you 2 say no lol) ? I may jsut end up replacing it right away if you think it will solve the issue before I cause more damage..till then I am going to try and not gear down any..hopefully its not my syncromesh tranny fluid..at 5 bux a qt I hate to have to drain it and put regular back in ...

Thanks for all the help so far..

i hate too tell you this. but yes you have damage too the trans. is it a little better without the stops. becuase the stops is what did it.

to replace the forks your looking at a whole trans rebuild. your probally better off tring too find a T-45 in a bone yard.

yeah so it's not the fluid. you can use that after your rebuild. when the car pops out of gear it puts a HUGE amount of force on the shift forks. and they can't handle that.

again i am soory too be the bringer of bad news. but you can thank those little nuts and bolts for this.