Mustang Specific shops / Engine builders

lamrith · Apr 16, 2006

Well, lots of good points here. I still think the engine builder should take the 15min to go check it. They really should have caught the issue originally. and without thier backup in this situation, Scat will think the Will is smoking abowl and blow him off.

The chances are very high that Scat sent the wrong crank. The quesiton now is, maybe will can just get the bigger fastener and be done, but will the bigger item fit in side his balancer???...

WILL - If yo uget a size, I might be able to check at work and see if we have them like I talked about...

lamrith · Apr 16, 2006

We got a bolt for Will to use.
YELLO05 - The bolt provided by the builder had threads that are too small.. THAT is his problem. Yes the guy has a good rep, but everyone makes mistakes, and he provided the wrong item to Will. If he had balanced it as you say he should have, he should darn well KNOW what size bolt it needed, so yes Will can be pissed at him for providing the wring bolt. I highly doubt he re-threaded the crank, that is not the point here, he provided an incorrect fastener. Why he heck would he need to rethread the crank at Will's house?? it is already bigger than normal aparently. But he can very easily figure out what thread size the crank is if he is a marginally skilled machinist. Finding thread size/pitch is machinist 101 stuff. Heck with the pitch find tool, I could figure it out and I have never been trained.

The head size (wrench size) is correct on the bolt that was provided, but the threads themsleves are a size to small, maybe he had a wrong bolt mixed in his good ones? Like I said simple mistake, but then to kae the customer go out of thier way to correct the problem, As has been said, it is less than 15min fromt he shop to Will's house. heck stop by on your way home at night, called customer service. This was not a $50 crank install, it was a $6000 block build up...

The bolt we got is a 5/8" fine thread. I still find it odd that the builder did not give him the correct bolt, but at least Will can get that thing moving forward again.

wifesweetstang said:
My quote to you : " You get what you pay for "

What the heck is that supposed to mean?? $6000 is not enough to spend on a good block???

yello05 · Apr 16, 2006

Good to hear you all got it figured out. I thought that crank bolt looked a little odd.

blackholehunter · Apr 16, 2006

lamrith said:
We got a bolt for Will to use.
YELLO05 - The bolt provided by the builder had threads that are too small.. THAT is his problem. Yes the guy has a good rep, but everyone makes mistakes, and he provided the wrong item to Will. If he had balanced it as you say he should have, he should darn well KNOW what size bolt it needed, so yes Will can be pissed at him for providing the wring bolt. I highly doubt he re-threaded the crank, that is not the point here, he provided an incorrect fastener. Why he heck would he need to rethread the crank at Will's house?? it is already bigger than normal aparently. But he can very easily figure out what thread size the crank is if he is a marginally skilled machinist. Finding thread size/pitch is machinist 101 stuff. Heck with the pitch find tool, I could figure it out and I have never been trained.

The head size (wrench size) is correct on the bolt that was provided, but the threads themsleves are a size to small, maybe he had a wrong bolt mixed in his good ones? Like I said simple mistake, but then to kae the customer go out of thier way to correct the problem, As has been said, it is less than 15min fromt he shop to Will's house. heck stop by on your way home at night, called customer service. This was not a $50 crank install, it was a $6000 block build up...

The bolt we got is a 5/8" fine thread. I still find it odd that the builder did not give him the correct bolt, but at least Will can get that thing moving forward again.

What the heck is that supposed to mean?? $6000 is not enough to spend on a good block???

She might be talking about how much of that was paid in labor to the machinist.

ddonaca351 · Apr 20, 2006

yello05 said:
Good to hear you all got it figured out. I thought that crank bolt looked a little odd.

(sigh) .... naw, nevermind. What would be the point...

DD

yello05 · Apr 20, 2006

ddonaca351 said:
(sigh) .... naw, nevermind. What would be the point...

Yello05 said:
I thought that crank bolt looked a little odd.
(post 23)

IMO your gonna look pretty silly when you find out you were simply not using the correct bolt.
(post 20)

I'll be your Huckleberry

In the beginning, he never mentioned that the hole WAS in fact threaded- his wording was "THis is due to the fact that I can push the bolt in and out without a single thread blocking my path." To me its just logical to find a bigger bolt if the hole is tapped. He made it sound like the hole was unthreaded. His other comment was "either 1. I REALLY need to start playing the lottery, or 2. Its not the correct crank." of which he didnt even list option 3, "I just need a bigger bolt" which sure seems a lot easier in retrospect

Like I said, glad to see you got it all figured out.

FORCED2DV8 · Apr 20, 2006

At least it was figured out, and you didnt have to tear down the engine.
It could have been much worse. If that was all that was wrong consider yourself lucky, 80 % of engine builders suck, (anyone can bolt parts together) The other 20% actually know what they are doing and do a good job. Most of us have run into the 80 percent group so by the time we spend the extra $$ for the guy who knows what he's doing any little thing goes wrong and you get pissed... IMO.

ddonaca351 · Apr 20, 2006

yello05 said:
I'll be your Huckleberry

In the beginning, he never mentioned that the hole WAS in fact threaded- his wording was "THis is due to the fact that I can push the bolt in and out without a single thread blocking my path." To me its just logical to find a bigger bolt if the hole is tapped. He made it sound like the hole was unthreaded. His other comment was "either 1. I REALLY need to start playing the lottery, or 2. Its not the correct crank." of which he didnt even list option 3, "I just need a bigger bolt" which sure seems a lot easier in retrospect

Like I said, glad to see you got it all figured out.

(sigh again) Ok since you wont leave it alone...

What I was going to point out is that you come in the thread, badmouthing us, badmouthing Will, etc... (and before you claim you didnt: dont know the aftermarket...blah blah blah) Defend the engine builder (who in point of fact, it now turns out screwed up when he gave Will the wrong bolt) Who could have saved his customer (who just spent the better part of 10 large) days worth of stress and heartache by a 15 min visit on his way home... And when its all said and done you have the nerve to act like you knew what the problem was all along...?!?!

Way to make friends and influence people...
Im glad that you know everything, so that way you wont ever have to ask us a question, much less need any help.

Dave-

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