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FoxMustangLvr

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Davedacarpainter said:
Not to start a whole new conversation, but, what would it take to fit 275's on the front. I haven't looked into this at all yet.
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I haven't either, I'm good with tucking 255's will slight rub up front. With sticky enough tires, correct corner entry/exit you'd should be pretty happy with that unless you're a pro or something.
 
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Sorry if I'm derailing your thread bro
 
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FoxMustangLvr said:
@Davedacarpainter
Sorry if I'm derailing your thread bro
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lol, thanks, I'm good at derailing it all on my own!
255's on the front? That would be nice.
 

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Widebody Fox?
 

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Are you taking time off from Doby?
lol
 
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Lol, I love this group of guys. What the hell were we talking about again? Oh yeah, mini tubbing for looks, but wanting handling, so then enter cantilevers, how about a custom fairmont, but what about fat tires up front too, oh widebody foxes are so sexy, wait wheres the beer?
 
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Lol, I love this group of guys. What the hell were we talking about again? Oh yeah, mini tubbing for looks, but wanting handling, so then enter cantilevers, how about a custom fairmont, but what about fat tires up front too, oh widebody foxes are so sexy, wait wheres the beer?
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I'm drinking Sam Adams. Who wants one?
 
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Its that time of year you can mail stuff to Iowa and its still cold... I'll be watching for the brown truck!
 
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Wish I could tub a fox and keep the IRS....smh. These threads derail my project every time. Lol.
 
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95BlueStallion said:
Lol, I love this group of guys. What the hell were we talking about again? Oh yeah, mini tubbing for looks, but wanting handling, so then enter cantilevers, how about a custom fairmont, but what about fat tires up front too, oh widebody foxes are so sexy, wait wheres the beer?
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I'm drinking a Dirty Basta*d, it's a beer from Founders Brewery. I have it pictured in Doby's thread. Try any of Founders beers, they are all good.
 

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Founders makes good stuff
 
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So Wolfe Racecraft sells spring perches that you weld in and use coil over springs for the suspension. Got to look into that. See if that will allow to tub the 1.25" I was thinking. Any opinions on moving the spring perch in a small amount? Problems? Would those springs offer better suspension over the stock style? I do like the idea of an adjustable perch though.
I have decided to slow down a little on the tubbing idea. I don't have to have this done now since I decided to POR the interior. That gives me time to give this idea due diligence.
I have about a month to think on it before I have the car repainted and back in the garage. THEN, I have to decide, I will be installing the rear end at that stage for (hopefully) the last time.
There are some fairly cheap coilovers out there. Just hate to get rid of those pretty new strange shocks I bought.
 

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Another idea. I looked into the pricing of a cheap set of coil overs. They are a possibility, maybe blow $400 on a set. This would eliminate the whole spring perch problem.
So, if I tub 1.25", would I be able to mount the coil overs to the stock mount on the differential and go to the moved in shock tower without binding? If so, that opens up the can of worms and I dive in. @madmike1157 ?
 

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#1. I wouldn't imagine that a 2" spring originally intended to surround a coil over would be a suitable substitute for a factory spring. The torsional stresses that it would get exposed to going aggressively around corners would have me believe that that kit was intended as a drag race modification.
#2. I wouldn't do anything to a car, including a major surgery like a minitub unless the little voice in my head, and NOT the rest of the voices on this forum told me to do it. While I cant speak for them, I believe everyone involved with this thread feel the same way. If you don't want, or need the additional tire capacity then don't do it. If you do, it can always be done later. (You just gotta pull all of that junk back out of the car, and undo some of your shiny, and sticky mods).
#3. Whether you buy a QA-1, or a Strange shock, you can get them for around 160.0 ea. at Summit. Springs add another 50 ea. so you're right, a little over 400 buys the pair. On the red car, I used the stock shock mount, and I only had to add spacers to shim the shock, and stand it off the rear end so that the spring wouldn't make contact with the axle tube during axle wrap. The top mount you have pics of. I welded a plate w/ a nut to the inside of the relocated stock shock mount, added a 3/4" spacer and ran one bolt through the top shock mount to secure that. After thinking about it, I added that goofy stud onto the spacer that went through the stock shock mount on top to give the mount additional support. It leaned in the 1.250 we're talkin about here,..just enough so it didn't make contact with the frame rail. I drove that car about 6000 miles the year that I had it after I finished it. The way that was setup worked perfectly.
 
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madmike1157 said:
#1. I wouldn't imagine that a 2" spring originally intended to surround a coil over would be a suitable substitute for a factory spring. The torsional stresses that it would get exposed to going aggressively around corners would have me believe that that kit was intended as a drag race modification.
#2. I wouldn't do anything to a car, including a major surgery like a minitub unless the little voice in my head, and NOT the rest of the voices on this forum told me to do it. While I cant speak for them, I believe everyone involved with this thread feel the same way. If you don't want, or need the additional tire capacity then don't do it. If you do, it can always be done later. (You just gotta pull all of that junk back out of the car, and undo some of your shiny, and sticky mods).
#3. Whether you buy a QA-1, or a Strange shock, you can get them for around 160.0 ea. at Summit. Springs add another 50 ea. so you're right, a little over 400 buys the pair. On the red car, I used the stock shock mount, and I only had to add spacers to shim the shock, and stand it off the rear end so that the spring wouldn't make contact with the axle tube during axle wrap. The top mount you have pics of. I welded a plate w/ a nut to the inside of the relocated stock shock mount, added a 3/4" spacer and ran one bolt through the top shock mount to secure that. After thinking about it, I added that goofy stud onto the spacer that went through the stock shock mount on top to give the mount additional support. It leaned in the 1.250 we're talkin about here,..just enough so it didn't make contact with the frame rail. I drove that car about 6000 miles the year that I had it after I finished it. The way that was setup worked perfectly.
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Thanks a bunch mike.
 

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I forget, what is the intended purpose/use of your Mustang? Street car, street strip? Do you want straight line or cornering ability? Don't lose site of what your goal is for the car. Builds are hard enough and expensive to complete, when you get side tracked it makes something that's already difficult even more so.

Stangnet has a lot of 1/4 mile street strip and dedicated drag car junkies. That's their thing and that's cool. For me, I like to not cringe anymore when I see an unavoidable bump in the road so I want a combination of ride quality, handling in turns, and reliability. I'll be cruising a lot with my 7 y/o son and 3 y/o twin daughters so I'm motivated to keep this thing off the side of the road.

One more thing, I think 275's fill out a fox pretty dang well and proportionately too. Here's a nice view of @bird_dog0347 coupe with 275's .
 
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FoxMustangLvr said:
@Davedacarpainter
I forget, what is the intended purpose/use of your Mustang? Street car, street strip? Do you want straight line or cornering ability? Don't lose site of what your goal is for the car. Builds are hard enough and expensive to complete, when you get side tracked it makes something that's already difficult even more so.

Stangnet has a lot of 1/4 mile street strip and dedicated drag car junkies. That's their thing and that's cool. For me, I like to not cringe anymore when I see an unavoidable bump in the road so I want a combination of ride quality, handling in turns, and reliability. I'll be cruising a lot with my 7 y/o son and 3 y/o twin daughters so I'm motivated to keep this thing off the side of the road.

One more thing, I think 275's fill out a fox pretty dang well and proportionately too. Here's a nice view of @bird_dog0347 coupe with 275's .
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I really like your car, and I have big respect for the irs swaps. How did you get that much tire in there, I thought Scott @RacEoHolic330 had to go smaller?

Say what you will,..all you wheel tub restricted mustangers with your girly man 275's.....Nothing says " I gotta pair" quite like a set of 315's.

Whew,....I could barely get the tire in the whole picture.
 
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My wears a size 315 as well
http://rs77.pbsrc.com/albums/j42/stykthyn/Un
 
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madmike1157 said:
I really like your car, and I have big respect for the irs swaps. How did you get that much tire in there, I thought Scott @RacEoHolic330 had to go smaller?

Say what you will,..all you wheel tub restricted mustangers with your girly man 275's.....Nothing says " I gotta pair" quite like a set of 315's.

Whew,....I could barely get the tire in the whole picture.
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Lol
 
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