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RaggedGT

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So you don't run a meineke any more?
 

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So you don't run a meineke any more?
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No, I had to leave due to illness. The tech I was referencing was fired a couple/few months before I left. The guy I brought in to replace him was/is a good guy. He started going through and fixing all the other tech's hacks, but he didn't have time to get through them all before I had to leave. Now, I'm trying to do it in my apartment parking lot! That adds a level of difficulty, lol.
 
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Update: Tamed Trunk.

So, @92NOTCH01 convinced me to go ahead and put Roadkill in the trunk area. I went and inspected the trunk area. When I knocked on the bare metal pan it sounded like knocking on an empty tin-can. That is [horrible] for noise and heat transfer. Therefore, trunk taming was necessary...

First, take all the junk out of your trunk, remove the trunk carpet, and promptly place it in the washer machine or some other type of cleaning apparatus. That thing is old, stained, and it smells of automotive fluids in many cases. Just because our cars are old doesn't mean they have to be trashed.


Next, if so equipped, remove the factory insulation carpet...


Then, remove the cover to the spare tire and jack. If you don't have the cover get it. It's cheap and keeps your trunk floor level. Why should we have holes and unevenness just because our car is old?



For a coupe, make sure you have the proper rear seat back sound deadener blanket. It really does matter when it comes to heat and noise. If you don't have it LMR has them cheap.


Next, remove the spare tire, jack, etc and inspect floor pan for holes. Mine had several holes from some numbskull who was drill happy. He also had a battery in the trunk at some point. I filled all the holes with a clear silicone. I'm not a fan of exhaust fumes in the cabin.


Thoroughly vacuum the entire trunk and wipe down with alcohol...




Next, remove each side of the trunk trim carpet after deciding not to be lazy. There should be 2 push pins on each side. You may want to consider buying a box of replacement pins [before] pulling your old ones out. The pins usually deform after a use or two. Then, clean the area the trim carpet was covering...


When applying the sound deadener make sure to retain the trunk drain plugs in case of water intrusion. In order to line the holes up when laying down the deadener I simply go slow, use an ice-pic type tool to make the target (far left), then use a bigger punch (to right of pic), to bore the drain hole out...


You can cover the entire trunk area. Just make sure to make provisions for all drain plugs and the spar tire :J" bolt. I didn't measure as precisely as I should have so I had to cut some filler pieces. While it doesn't look as good as it could, it [is] under the carpet, and still does the same job.


Replace the washed carpet in the trunk, put various items back in the trunk, decide if you still want to use the factory deadener blanket/pad, and close her up!



While I did not test drive the vehicle yet I did start it up. I could already tell a difference in cabin noise reduction. The exhaust sounded like it was out back, out "there,"and separated from me instead of with me -if you know what I'm saying. I plan on test driving later and posting the review.

Lastly, if you're keeping track: 1 box of Stinger Roadkill Expert covered the entire roof, both floor pans and trans tunnel, and the trunk. That's a great deal for $90, some labor, and some sweat. If I knock on the trunk pan now there is no empty tin-can. It's a thud.
 
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joetrainer31 said:
Update: Tamed Trunk.

So, @92NOTCH01 convinced me to go ahead and put Roadkill in the trunk area. I went and inspected the trunk area. When I knocked on the bare metal pan it sounded like knocking on an empty tin-can. That is [horrible] for noise and heat transfer. Therefore, trunk taming was necessary...

First, take all the junk out of your trunk, remove the trunk carpet, and promptly place it in the washer machine or some other type of cleaning apparatus. That thing is old, stained, and it smells of automotive fluids in many cases. Just because our cars are old doesn't mean they have to be trashed.


Next, if so equipped, remove the factory insulation carpet...


Then, remove the cover to the spare tire and jack. If you don't have the cover get it. It's cheap and keeps your trunk floor level. Why should we have holes and unevenness just because our car is old?



For a coupe, make sure you have the proper rear seat back sound deadener blanket. It really does matter when it comes to heat and noise. If you don't have it LMR has them cheap.


Next, remove the spare tire, jack, etc and inspect floor pan for holes. Mine had several holes from some numbskull who was drill happy. He also had a battery in the trunk at some point. I filled all the holes with a clear silicone. I'm not a fan of exhaust fumes in the cabin.


Thoroughly vacuum the entire trunk and wipe down with alcohol...




Next, remove each side of the trunk trim carpet after deciding not to be lazy. There should be 2 push pins on each side. You may want to consider buying a box of replacement pins [before] pulling your old ones out. The pins usually deform after a use or two. Then, clean the area the trim carpet was covering...


When applying the sound deadener make sure to retain the trunk drain plugs in case of water intrusion. In order to line the holes up when laying down the deadener I simply go slow, use an ice-pic type tool to make the target (far left), then use a bigger punch (to right of pic), to bore the drain hole out...


You can cover the entire trunk area. Just make sure to make provisions for all drain plugs and the spar tire :J" bolt. I didn't measure as precisely as I should have so I had to cut some filler pieces. While it doesn't look as good as it could, it [is] under the carpet, and still does the same job.


Replace the washed carpet in the trunk, put various items back in the trunk, decide if you still want to use the factory deadener blanket/pad, and close her up!



While I did not test drive the vehicle yet I did start it up. I could already tell a difference in cabin noise reduction. The exhaust sounded like it was out back, out "there,"and separated from me instead of with me -if you know what I'm saying. I plan on test driving later and posting the review.

Lastly, if you're keeping track: 1 box of Stinger Roadkill Expert covered the entire roof, both floor pans and trans tunnel, and the trunk. That's a great deal for $90, some labor, and some sweat. If I knock on the trunk pan now there is no empty tin-can. It's a thud.
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Nice work brother! If you throw a sub box back there it'll be even sweeter! I worked in a stereo shop when I was younger whenever a customer asked about trunk rattle it was dynamat time


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92NOTCH01 said:
Nice work brother! If you throw a sub box back there it'll be even sweeter! I worked in a stereo shop when I was younger whenever a customer asked about trunk rattle it was dynamat time


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Thank you! That's good info to know. I do not have a stereo or any speakers yet. Can you suggest quality speakers for the stock locations? As for a head unit I'm interested in a single den unit w/o blue tooth or remote. I'd just like one w/a CD player and possibly an input jack. If there is HD even better.
 
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Thank you! That's good info to know. I do not have a stereo or any speakers yet. Can you suggest quality speakers for the stock locations? As for a head unit I'm interested in a single den unit w/o blue tooth or remote. I'd just like one w/a CD player and possibly an input jack. If there is HD even better.
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Yea man do components 5 and a quarters in the doors 1 inch tweets in the dash, if you don't mind cutting into the door I would do 6.5s in the door. Rear deck 5.25 co axials in the deck. I'm partial to diamond audio Memphis audio or Boston acoustic s. How come no Bluetooth? U want iPod controls? I've always liked alpine and Kenwood decks. I would do 2 amps, 1x 4 channel to drive the interiors and 1 sub amp. I like the boom boom


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joetrainer31 said:
Update: Tamed Trunk.

So, @92NOTCH01 convinced me to go ahead and put Roadkill in the trunk area. I went and inspected the trunk area. When I knocked on the bare metal pan it sounded like knocking on an empty tin-can. That is [horrible] for noise and heat transfer. Therefore, trunk taming was necessary...

First, take all the junk out of your trunk, remove the trunk carpet, and promptly place it in the washer machine or some other type of cleaning apparatus. That thing is old, stained, and it smells of automotive fluids in many cases. Just because our cars are old doesn't mean they have to be trashed.


Next, if so equipped, remove the factory insulation carpet...


Then, remove the cover to the spare tire and jack. If you don't have the cover get it. It's cheap and keeps your trunk floor level. Why should we have holes and unevenness just because our car is old?



For a coupe, make sure you have the proper rear seat back sound deadener blanket. It really does matter when it comes to heat and noise. If you don't have it LMR has them cheap.


Next, remove the spare tire, jack, etc and inspect floor pan for holes. Mine had several holes from some numbskull who was drill happy. He also had a battery in the trunk at some point. I filled all the holes with a clear silicone. I'm not a fan of exhaust fumes in the cabin.


Thoroughly vacuum the entire trunk and wipe down with alcohol...




Next, remove each side of the trunk trim carpet after deciding not to be lazy. There should be 2 push pins on each side. You may want to consider buying a box of replacement pins [before] pulling your old ones out. The pins usually deform after a use or two. Then, clean the area the trim carpet was covering...


When applying the sound deadener make sure to retain the trunk drain plugs in case of water intrusion. In order to line the holes up when laying down the deadener I simply go slow, use an ice-pic type tool to make the target (far left), then use a bigger punch (to right of pic), to bore the drain hole out...


You can cover the entire trunk area. Just make sure to make provisions for all drain plugs and the spar tire :J" bolt. I didn't measure as precisely as I should have so I had to cut some filler pieces. While it doesn't look as good as it could, it [is] under the carpet, and still does the same job.


Replace the washed carpet in the trunk, put various items back in the trunk, decide if you still want to use the factory deadener blanket/pad, and close her up!



While I did not test drive the vehicle yet I did start it up. I could already tell a difference in cabin noise reduction. The exhaust sounded like it was out back, out "there,"and separated from me instead of with me -if you know what I'm saying. I plan on test driving later and posting the review.

Lastly, if you're keeping track: 1 box of Stinger Roadkill Expert covered the entire roof, both floor pans and trans tunnel, and the trunk. That's a great deal for $90, some labor, and some sweat. If I knock on the trunk pan now there is no empty tin-can. It's a thud.
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BTW all the work you did in the interior and trunk area laying down sound deadener. A car stereo shop would have charged anywhere from 1000 to 2000 dollars


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92NOTCH01 said:
BTW all the work you did in the interior and trunk area laying down sound deadener. A car stereo shop would have charged anywhere from 1000 to 2000 dollars


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Wow! Really?!
 
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joetrainer31 said:
Wow! Really?!
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Yea man, call a local car stereo shop and ask them for a quote. I live in Chicago so the going rate for a car is usually around that price depending on where u live.


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92NOTCH01 said:
Yea man do components 5 and a quarters in the doors 1 inch tweets in the dash, if you don't mind cutting into the door I would do 6.5s in the door. Rear deck 5.25 co axials in the deck. I'm partial to diamond audio Memphis audio or Boston acoustic s. How come no Bluetooth? U want iPod controls? I've always liked alpine and Kenwood decks. I would do 2 amps, 1x 4 channel to drive the interiors and 1 sub amp. I like the boom boom


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When I was much younger I went for the big systems. Now, I just want good quality sound from the stock locations. I'd also like to be able to produce the power from the head unit (i.e., no external amps).

The "no blue tooth" deal has to do with health concerns and how blue tooth interacts w/my nervous system...it's a long story.

Am I understanding you right that I should put 5 1/4" speakers in the doors with an accompanying 1" tweeter in the dash? Then the deck takes 5 1/4 also, but make them coax? Do I have that right?
 
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joetrainer31 said:
When I was much younger I went for the big systems. Now, I just want good quality sound from the stock locations. I'd also like to be able to produce the power from the head unit (i.e., no external amps).

The "no blue tooth" deal has to do with health concerns and how blue tooth interacts w/my nervous system...it's a long story.

Am I understanding you right that I should put 5 1/4" speakers in the doors with an accompanying 1" tweeter in the dash? Then the deck takes 5 1/4 also, but make them coax? Do I have that right?
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U don't want to use the power from a head unit to power your speakers. You will blow your speakers up. The head units never produce the kind of power that they state. Yes 5.25 components, which consist of the 5.25 inch mid bass driver in the door and then the 1 inch tweet in the dash location. The 5.25 co ax speaker in the rear deck


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U don't want to use the power from a head unit to power your speakers. You will blow your speakers up. The head units never produce the kind of power that they state. Yes 5.25 components, which consist of the 5.25 inch mid bass driver in the door and then the 1 inch tweet in the dash location. The 5.25 co ax speaker in the rear deck


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Okay. That's good to know. So, maybe I could get away with one amp for the doors and deck while letting the head unit drive the 1" tweeters? I really don't need a sub, I don't even want the amp, lol.
 
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Okay. That's good to know. So, maybe I could get away with one amp for the doors and deck while letting the head unit drive the 1" tweeters? I really don't need a sub, I don't even want the amp, lol.
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Get a 4 channel amp to drive your interiors. If u don't want a sub and an amp then u could cross those off, but don't u want some junk in the trunk??
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Get a 4 channel amp to drive your interiors. If u don't want a sub and an amp then u could cross those off, but don't u want some junk in the trunk??
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I already have junk in the trunk: a spare tire and jack.

At 42 I REALLY don't need a bunch of bass.
 
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I already have junk in the trunk: a spare tire and jack.

At 42 I REALLY don't need a bunch of bass.
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Dude I'm 43!! LOL


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Dude I'm 43!! LOL


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lol! I guess you're a young 43. I'm a very old 42!
 
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lol! I guess you're a young 43. I'm a very old 42!
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Always loved my sounds. I feel like I'm 83....lol


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Always loved my sounds. I feel like I'm 83....lol


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Nothing wrong with that. I'm a musician. I like sound too. I'm just more mellowed in the car stereo department now.
 
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Nothing wrong with that. I'm a musician. I like sound too. I'm just more mellowed in the car stereo department now.
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Gotcha man


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Update: Roadkill Results.

The driving expierence is [way] better with all the Roadkill installed. Each section (e.g., roof, floor pan, trunk) added a level of compartmentalization to the interior, but all three are really nice. The interior is way more quiet inside. I can now hear a little squeak inside that just won't do. It also stays cooler inside. The A/C seems to be more efficient with the added insulation.

I chose to omit the factory sound deadener mat from the trunk with the Roadkill installed. The Roadkill does a better job anyhow and I don't see the need for the extra 12bs of insulation.
 
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