Need help, problem with pedal bushings.

68stang351 · Mar 3, 2012

I decided I was going to fix the slop in my 68 coupe's clutch and brake pedals, but when I got the clutch pedal out, I noticed that the pedal support (I guess that's what you would call it, goes between the dash and the firewall, where the pedal pivot goes through) where the bushings go is wore out. The hole is no longer round, but oblong.

The only fix I see is to replace the whole support, along with all the bushings. Is this right? Has anyone else had to do this? I thought it would be a quick fix to just replace the bushings, but boy was I wrong. Now I have to remove the column and order more crap.

68stang351 · Mar 3, 2012

Now I have to replace this too http://shop.autocraftinvestments.com/products/01508_2A-100140-0.html corect? Or is there some kind of fix I don't know about?

I wonder if I could get away with just this http://shop.autocraftinvestments.com/products/01509_1A-100141-0.html. Depending on how bad the hole in my support is, I guess replacing just this kit would be kind of a band-aid fix that wouldn't last very long.

2+2GT · Mar 3, 2012

Been there, done that. Instead of replacing the pedal support, just use the Drake roller kit. If the shaft is OK, use the plain kit, if the shaft is bad, there is a kit with a new one. With a little effort, you might get lucky and fix this with the support in the car. And I can tell you, the clutch will be easier and smoother that you ever thought possible.

This will help-

Mustang Clutch Assist Spring Removal and Installation

68stang351 · Mar 3, 2012

Thanks. You're always helpful. What I'm worried about is even if I replace all that, I'm worried that the pivot rod will break through the big bushing, since that big round bushing will be put into an oblong hole.

Hmmm, just found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/67-68-Shelb...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=6748677684517711991 He says that he will buy my old one back for 30$ too.

dennis112 · Mar 3, 2012

Here is what I did using the Mustang Steve kit--it replaces the supports bushings:

Here is the write up of my installation:
http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/transmission-articles/481163-ball-bearing-clutch-pedal-support.html

mustangmike6996 · Mar 3, 2012

http://www.mustangsteve.com/clutchbearings.html

try using a bearing like this mustang steve kit.

2+2GT · Mar 4, 2012

68stang351 said:
Thanks. You're always helpful. What I'm worried about is even if I replace all that, I'm worried that the pivot rod will break through the big bushing, since that big round bushing will be put into an oblong hole.

The Drake kit replaces the white metal eye in the support with a steel eye. Has the steel of the bracket been damaged, too? If so, you'll need the kit with a new pedal shaft.

68stang351 · Mar 5, 2012

Decided to go ahead and take it out today. Judging by the sticker on it, it's been replaced before. I will definitely need a new shaft, it is cut almost halfway through! Edit: I just saw on the Mustang Steve link a pic of one about the same shape, they said it was still fixable.

My concern at this point is if the hole is too oblong for any of the above kits to repair it.

68stang351 · Mar 7, 2012

Just ordered the Mustang Steve kit.

bikefreak600 · Mar 8, 2012

i am going to use roller bearings & sleeve from a local store, so replacement bearings are easily accessible. a quadrant/adj. cable from a fox body, and fab clutch pedal. that mustang steve kit looks like a quality stuff, but little over priced.

grainboy · Mar 9, 2012

The mustang steve ball bearing convesion may be more expensive than piecing it together yourself, but it works, and is relatively easy to do. Superior to the plastic bushings ford used. i really didn't think it was all that expensive.

dennis112 · Mar 9, 2012

Certainly cheaper and better than a new support.

68stang351 · Mar 9, 2012

I might could piece it together myself, but I know with the Mustang Steve kit it is proven and I want the car going again soon, I don't want to wait around while I try to piece it all together on my own.

I don't have time for that, I'm ready to hit the track!

bikefreak600 · Mar 10, 2012

dont get me wrong, i would prefer to buy complete kits as well ! i am just too broke to buy everything new hahaha

68stang351 · Mar 11, 2012

bikefreak600 said:
dont get me wrong, i would prefer to buy complete kits as well ! i am just too broke to buy everything new hahaha

I hear you. I actually like trying to make things like that on my own, to see if I can do it, and to be able to say I made it. I had a lot of fun with putting my Autometer gauges in my factory bezel, but it was way cheaper than a JME setup. That's what got me started doing things like that on my own. If I want something that I can build cheaper than I can buy, I'll build it.

I'm just kind of in a hurry right now.

mustangmike6996 · Mar 11, 2012

68stang351 said:
I hear you. I actually like trying to make things like that on my own, to see if I can do it, and to be able to say I made it. I had a lot of fun with putting my Autometer gauges in my factory bezel, but it was way cheaper than a JME setup. That's what got me started doing things like that on my own. If I want something that I can build cheaper than I can buy, I'll build it.

I'm just kind of in a hurry right now.

i am looking at doing this as well... can you get some pics up or pm me details?

bikefreak600 · Mar 12, 2012

68stang351 said:
I hear you. I actually like trying to make things like that on my own, to see if I can do it, and to be able to say I made it. I had a lot of fun with putting my Autometer gauges in my factory bezel, but it was way cheaper than a JME setup. That's what got me started doing things like that on my own. If I want something that I can build cheaper than I can buy, I'll build it.

I'm just kind of in a hurry right now.[/quote

68stang351 said:

I hear you. I actually like trying to make things like that on my own, to see if I can do it, and to be able to say I made it. I had a lot of fun with putting my Autometer gauges in my factory bezel, but it was way cheaper than a JME setup. That's what got me started doing things like that on my own. If I want something that I can build cheaper than I can buy, I'll build it.

I'm just kind of in a hurry right now.

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once you start fabricating you can never stop lol i have a miller TIG machine and various metal fab tools + a friend who runs a cnc machine, so i can pretty much make anything lol if i think is worth taking the time to save some cash, or if i want something but dont really like anything available from aftermarket, i modify an existing design and make it the way i want it !

2+2GT · Mar 13, 2012

bikefreak600 said:
dont get me wrong, i would prefer to buy complete kits as well ! i am just too broke to buy everything new hahaha

The roller bearing kit with new shaft is MSRP $49.95, less than the cost of a tank of gas.

bartl · Mar 13, 2012

That's a relatively easy fix. Grind off the old repair and clean up the hole. Using a copper spoon on the back side weld up the damaged hole, grind smooth on both sides and re-drill to the correct size.

68stang351 · Mar 17, 2012

Done!

This is the only (crappy) pic I have of it now, I will probably post a better pic tomorrow after I put it in.
I can't wait. This is the only thing stopping me from getting some damn timeslips!!!!!

It seems like it's going to be very nice with my cable setup. I won't know really until Sunday because I'm going to Goodguys tomorrow (in the 90GT) and then the track tomorrow night, so I won't get it together until Sunday.

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