Need help, which CC plates, and should I get Tierod ends?

[BlackFox5.0]

I need some CC Plates that I can use for when I go autocrossing. I would like to change my camber when I race, then put it back after I am done for the day so I don't wear out my tires so quickly...

I am putting '94 spindles on my car (I have '97 spindles too, but heard they won't fit and no one will tell me why not, tierods?) and was thinking about getting aftermarket tierod ends, if I got them could I run '97 spindles? will they be good for my application?

 

[TheRedBlur]

Maximum motorsports makes a good cc plate.
what's the difference of a 97 to a 94 spindle?, I always thought that the balljoints are better for teh 97 and that the lower contorl arm is moved forward in the 97 ups, I never knew that the spindle was differnt

 

[BlackFox5.0]

The spindles make the track wider by 8mm on each side, they will fit, but oyu have to have something inorder for them to work, I don't know if it's tierod ends or what....

I want the MM plates but I'm not ready to drop almost $200 on them, so i am open to suggestions if there are equally good plates out there, should I get the tierod ends?

 

[Fox Saleen 163]

Change your camber for the track? Why? When you change your camber you cause a change in toe. So either it's going to be wrong on the track, or wrong on the street. Either way, it's not good. What you need is more positive caster. The correct alignment settings should be good for the street and autocross. Read below.

----> Due to the steering geometry in the front of the Mustang, just turning the steering wheel will cause the camber of the outside front tire to change, becoming more positive. This effect can be countered by increasing the amount of caster. Enough positive caster (around 4 degrees in a Mustang) will cause the camber of the outside front tire to become more negative while cornering. (Maximum Motorsports)

I have 4* positive caster and 1* negative camber. I drive pretty agressive in turns and have no abnormal tire wear.

Do your research before you spend any money. Stop being cheap and spend the $200 on the MM C/C plates.

 

[BlackFox5.0]

Well when i went autocrossing this year, after about a dozen runs (about 2.5 mins long track) my tires have a rounded edge to them, I was told I could use CC plates and move them when I go to the track so I don't have as much tire wear....

Should I get the tierod ends or not? I can probably get a set for $50 from someone

 

[Fox Saleen 163]

I just went shreading my favorite road today. 12 miles of nothing but winding roads and dirt. First time there since I got all of my suspension installed. The speeds range from 35 to 120+ on the straights. Lots of hairpins and high speed turns. After making two runs I passed a squad car on the side of the road, the officer was down in the valley doing something (I think a motorcycle flew off the road)... I could see him look in my direction and he wasn't pleased. I called it a day and headed home. I stopped at a gas station a few miles up the road and examined my tires. They had obviously been through some hell, but they didn't have the usual bald corners like before. Not to mention they were sticking to the road really well. I think you will be happy with +4* caster, -1* camber.

Adj. tie rod ends? Or the 90-93 tie rod ends? Depends on your setup. I would ask someone at MM.

 

[BlackFox5.0]

I am putting on '94 spindles (or '97 if all I need is the aftermarket tierod ends) on my car with SN95 brakes and '98 Cobra wheels

I amm eyeing some Ground Pounder Tierod ends (bump steerkit) this is what they look like

 

[TheRedBlur]

steeda makes a pretty nice set of balljoints. Buy the way, I paid over $200 bucks for a set of hotchkis camber plates a few years ago, don't get me wrong they are nice, but I wish I got the MM's instead

 

[Matt90GT]

Either get the MM or J&M units.

Reason you cannot use the stockers (or atleast without bad tire and alignment issues) is that they isolate the strut in a rubber donut. Kind of like a hot knife in the butter tub idea! It does not hold any kind of alignment there.

The 96+ modular spindles will work, but push the track out. That causes issues with tire rubbing and there is no special offset made for 9" wheels to correct the front track increase.

 

[BlackFox5.0]

Thanks Matt, will the '96+ spindles bolt right in, or do I need tirrod ends, I just got tierod ends for a good price, but i can swap out the spindles on my girlfriends '94, and give her the '97 spindles, so I can put the '94's on my car if i have to

I'm am going to be using an 8" '98 Cobra rim