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need help with vorech centrifugal supercharger anyone

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mat82284

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OK I have been dealing with this for 3 weeks, then i buy a new silicone intake elbow and still same thing is happening.

Here's the story,

Right after the Vortech head unit is the exit whole where you put your intake elbow on. We'll the one that came with the Anderson powerpipe kept slipping off my stupid head unit. So i bought a new 3 1/2 to 4in silicone reducer. It holds much better than the one that came with the Anderson powerpipe, but it is still slipping off! I even tried hair spray from what i read works.

Does anyone else have this problem? How do you fix it! I'm getting really irritated because its consistently creating a stupid vacuum leak because of it slipping off. I also am throwing code p1152, but it only shows up once the stupid intake elbow slips off.

I have run out of options on whats causing this. I even switched from a worm gear clamp to a T bolt clamp, but when i use the T-bolt clamp and i try to tighten it down it starts to slip off the vortech head unit. I which vortech made the lip longer, eerrrhhhhggghh, or beaded the lip.

Should i not be using a t-bolt clamp? Could it be tightening to tight where it forces pressure on it and causes it to slip off? Thats the only thing i can think of right now. If anyone has an answer please let me know, i have searched everywhere!
 

BlownStangGT

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I have a powerpipe with a regular looking clamp and it has never came off.....I would call them maybe? But you could be tighting it down to much causing it to slip off?
 
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BlownStangGT said:
I have a powerpipe with a regular looking clamp and it has never came off.....I would call them maybe? But you could be tighting it down to much causing it to slip off?
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Maybe i am tightening it down to tight, I dono. Anyone else have/had this issue?
 
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Have you tried bolting up just the elbow first? double check the install on the rest of the power pipe and make sure it isnt pulling the elbow off in some wierd way. Also make sure that the clamp is on straight and not cocked in anyway or it will slide off. The only problem I ever had was when I put the clamp on slightly crooked.
 
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darkside03gt said:
Have you tried bolting up just the elbow first? double check the install on the rest of the power pipe and make sure it isnt pulling the elbow off in some wierd way. Also make sure that the clamp is on straight and not cocked in anyway or it will slide off. The only problem I ever had was when I put the clamp on slightly crooked.
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Actually i tried all that already. I think the issue is weight. At the bottom of the Anderson pipe is a 90 degree elbow to my mass air, then to a 9" cone filter that literally hits my front bumper. It all barley fits but fits. Maybe the weight is causing it to slip off the supercharger. I bought my supercharger used with the Anderson pipe. Is there supposed to be a bracket that holds the pipe to anything because the only thing holding the pipe is the fender, and the silicone intake elbow
 

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mat82284 said:
Actually i tried all that already. I think the issue is weight. At the bottom of the Anderson pipe is a 90 degree elbow to my mass air, then to a 9" cone filter that literally hits my front bumper. It all barley fits but fits. Maybe the weight is causing it to slip off the supercharger. I bought my supercharger used with the Anderson pipe. Is there supposed to be a bracket that holds the pipe to anything because the only thing holding the pipe is the fender, and the silicone intake elbow
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There should be a bracket at the top of your filter & MAF that attaches to the intake piping and also bolts onto the fender. I had to fab mine a bit - but it is essential to ensure the entire assembly is not hanging off your head unit.

Sounds like you're missing the bracket and thus the rubber elbow keeps popping off.

Hope this helps.
 
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mat82284

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skidad62 said:
There should be a bracket at the top of your filter & MAF that attaches to the intake piping and also bolts onto the fender. I had to fab mine a bit - but it is essential to ensure the entire assembly is not hanging off your head unit.

Sounds like you're missing the bracket and thus the rubber elbow keeps popping off.

Hope this helps.
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Do you have a picture of this bracket and it installed? This sounds like the reason. I need to get this bracket or make one. I have an L shaped bracket for my mass air, but i thought it was for the oem vortech, maybe its the same bracket. A picture would help alot, If you or anyone else has one or could take one i would be deeply thankful!
 

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Well what you need to do is push on the elbow while you are tightening it down, by pushing on the elbow it will keep it from slipping off. I had a similar problem to yours and thats what I did and I haven't had a problem since. You do need the bracket too but even with the bracket mine would still slip off as I tightened it down.
 
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04YELLOWGT said:
Well what you need to do is push on the elbow while you are tightening it down, by pushing on the elbow it will keep it from slipping off. I had a similar problem to yours and thats what I did and I haven't had a problem since. You do need the bracket too but even with the bracket mine would still slip off as I tightened it down.
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Are you tightening it with a T-bold clamp? Mine slips off as i tighten it with the t-bolt, Are you saying you held it really good to where it didnt slip so you could tighten it really good?
 

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mat82284 said:
Are you tightening it with a T-bold clamp? Mine slips off as i tighten it with the t-bolt, Are you saying you held it really good to where it didnt slip so you could tighten it really good?
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Yep I use T-Bolt Clamps. I just pushed it on the supercharger as hard as I could with one hand and tightened it with the other and it's stayed on.
 
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I would contact vortech about a torque spec for that clamp. As rediculous as it sounds, you can overtighten it, which seems to be the case here. When you over-tighten it, it ca actually make the elbow squeeze out, causing it to pop off.

I had the same problem on a the 6.4 diesel at work, whenever under boost, the pipe would pop off, after a couple hours toying with the thing, I finally contacted ford techinical assistance hotline and was told the specific torque for that clamp. Seemed low, but it fixed it.
 

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make sure there is no grease/lube on it. You might try washing it thoroughly with dishwashing detergent to be sure.
 
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You need a bracket to support the weight with the Anderson. It doesn't come with one but the bouncing of the car is your problem. Get a bracket. Problem goes away.
 
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mat82284

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rconaway said:
You need a bracket to support the weight with the Anderson. It doesn't come with one but the bouncing of the car is your problem. Get a bracket. Problem goes away.
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Do you have a picture of this braket i can see? Right now i used some zip ties to hold it up and it seems to be working as a temp fix.
 
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