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no crank after pedal swap for t5

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mustang_montana

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swapped out the automatic pedals for those of a 5speed, havent put the tranny in or anything yet though. reconnected all the steering column wiring and everything that was taken apart, but now the car wont crank. car started right up before i did the pedal swap, but now it sounds like a speaker turning on when i turn the key but nothing else besides the fp priming. i checked every connector, fuses etc. kinda at a loss here, break switch looks like its hooked up right. i didnt hook up the clutch switch, or the quadrant connectors as the t5 wiring harness hasnt showed up yet. basically i have it setup the way it was for the auto pedals, so it should start right? any ideas? dont know where to start, everything looks perfectly connected, no shorts or frayed wires. thanks guys
 

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sounds like the neutral safety switch. there is a jumper on the auto pedals that makes it so you dont have to have the "clutch" pushed in. just take that and put it on the 5 spd pedals and it will bypass this.
 

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cool, i didnt see anything on the old assembly though. any idea where to look?
 

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still not sure why it wont crank, i havent swapped over the t5 harness yet. i saw the jumped connector for the nss, never touched any of that. everything is connected up exactly the way it was for the auto pedals.
 

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No Crank checklist for 5.0 Mustangs

Revised 30-Jan-2009 to reorder checklist and add cleaning procedure for connections.

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…

1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.
The battery posts and inside of the battery post terminals should be scraped clean with a knife or cleaner brush tool.

The clamp on with 2 bolts battery terminal ends are a know problem causer. Anyplace you see green on a copper wire is corrosion. Corrosion gets in the clamped joint and works its way up the wire under the insulation. Avoid them like the plague...

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection while trying to start the car: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.

See Automotive Test Tools for help for help troubleshooting voltage drops across connections and components. .



2.) Check the battery to engine block ground down near the oil filter, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall. All grounds should be clean and shiny. Use some sandpaper to clean then up.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (small red/blue wire) off the starter solenoid (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it cranks, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.

Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss &Stang&2birds


AutoZone wiring diagrams

For 79-88 model Mustangs
AutoZone.com | Vehicle Selection - Year

For 89-93 model Mustangs
AutoZone.com | Vehicle Selection - Year

For 94-98 model Mustangs
AutoZone.com | Vehicle Selection - Year

6.) Pull the starter and take it to AutoZone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.

Starter solenoid wiring for 86-91 Mustang



Starter solenoid wiring 92-93 Mustang or earlier Mustang with upgraded high torque mini starter.
 

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bah, it started before the pedal swap. its gotta be related to that. ill save the massive checklist for last if i can heh, thanks though.
 

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Was the neutral safety switch jumped? It used to plug into the trans and now is probably dangling somewhere......
 
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It's been so long since I did the swap I don't remember what you need to do to start it without the harness. It will start after you install the harness. Is there any reason you need to start it now?
 

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no reason to start now, just cant get it out of my back yard until april...just wanted to crank it over every now and then. i guess i was just confused as to why it wont start when all i changed were the pedals, leaving the wiring alone basically. i dont remember disconnecting any switches from the auto assembly, the jumpered nss is still intack. i just want to make sure it will start come transmission swap time, i got plenty of time until spring i just want it all prepared. thanks for the replies!
 
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did you try removing the jumper to see if it will start?
 

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yeah, didnt do anything. the car should start, unless it can magically sense the new clutch pedal there and not like it. lame
 
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