No More Bypassing Smog Test With PO Box

[Lazer2KGT]

I have had a PO Box in Wilkerson WA for almost 5 years now and have been able to bypass getting smog tests. Went to get tabs for my beater today (a 95 Neon), and they had me fill out 2nd address form. This goes off of your house address so they can crack down on people getting around the smog test. My Neon should not be a problem but my 86 F-250 with a 460 may have troubles. My main concern is my 2K GT with a 01 4V and a Prochamber (offroad pipe). Since its a 2000 I have a year left on taking the smog test. I know the 86 truck and 95 Neon will have to take the sniffer but what about the 2000? I have heard that the OBD II cars (96 and up) dont take the sniffer but they scan you for codes, is this true? Is there a visual? I know on the older cars they stopped the visual. Getting long but anyone with newer Stangs (in WA) how do they test you? If it's just a scan I can check and clear any codes with my scan tool while I wait in line. I do still have my stock H pipe but with JBA's its a pain to get the bolts tight (header to H Pipe). Thanks
Scott

 

[gospeedgo]

In Oregon at least, as long as it doesnt throw a code, including a p1000 pass code, it will go thru. No visuals here. But you cant clear your code in line, cause a p1000 will fail you, it needs to pass all the drive cycle tests.

 

[YardSpecial]

About time !!

Pay up suker !!

 

[Lazer2KGT]

HMM? Whats the P1000? I'll have to look in my service manual. My chip turns off the MIL for the cats, but I'm still getting a P0430 fault. Sent the chip back to JMS but they said it's not the chip. P0430 is Rear O2 bank 2 catylist inifficiency fault. I'll have to get that proble fixed.
Scott

 

[Lazer2KGT]

About time !!

Pay up suker !!

I dont mind paying, its just trying to get a 460 with a Holley 4 barrel carb (stock carb with idle scews tamper proofed) pass the idle is a joke, I dont even put 1500 miles a year on it.
Scott

 

[YardSpecial]

Dude its cake, dumps some heat into the tank, retard the timing, change the oil and she should pass.

A car that fails runs like crap, U will probably fail the gas cap test tho............

The guy with a 78 F250 460....................

 

[lamrith]

Or just get a friend with a house in a non test county to let you use his address, then skip the whole PO box thing entirely...

 

[gospeedgo]

HMM? Whats the P1000? I'll have to look in my service manual. My chip turns off the MIL for the cats, but I'm still getting a P0430 fault. Sent the chip back to JMS but they said it's not the chip. P0430 is Rear O2 bank 2 catylist inifficiency fault. I'll have to get that proble fixed.
Scott

Seems odd it would have only a p0430 without a p0420 also. The p0430 is for bank 2 and the p0420 is bank 1.

the p1000 is a code set to show incomplete monitor tests. It keeps people from passing tests just like we are talking about here for that reason. To clear a p1000 you need to go thru many drive cycles. Usually takes about 2-4 days of normal driving, in which the code would be back. Maybe, just maybe you could get lucky and they just look at the light and see that it is off...never know! Its either that or the $20 tune

 

[Lazer2KGT]

"Or just get a friend with a house in a non test county to let you use his address, then skip the whole PO box thing entirely. from lamrith"

This is a option but they want to see your drivers license to see if it matches, not sure if I want to lie about that.

"Seems odd it would have only a p0430 without a p0420 also. The p0430 is for bank 2 and the p0420 is bank 1. from gospeedgo"

Yeah I know this is someting I've been going round and round with JMS. With no chip I get both P0420 and P0430. With the chip get the P0430. With my Hellion Scan Tool I can monitor the O2 readings. With the chip bank 1 rear reads 0 volts and no swithching (stays 0V), bank 2 rear switches at almost the same rate as the front (gets voltage readings), thus the fault. No chip both bank 1 & 2 rear get voltage readings like the front and get both faults.
I also have a bucking problem at cruise with or without the chip (1600 to 2000 RPM). If I pull the vacuum line off the EGR and cap it no bucking but get faults for that. I may have a bad O2 as I seem to remember reading some where of someone with this same problem. I've swapped EGR's and no help. I've even pulled the connector apart and swapped the feedback wire (one that sends signals to PCM) from the left to right rear O2's and symptoms didn't change. I guess I'll have to break down and take it to good shop that knows their stuff, any suggestions. Wish someone did dyno tunes around hear besides Blood.
Scott

 

[lamrith]

Wow, that is a definite change in policy then. Well, party can't last forever!!

As for Dyno tuning, there is a place in Fed Way that has a dyno, not sure of they do EFI or just Carb stuff.. They are off of 348th and enchanted parkway. Sort of accrost the street from the Denny's and Jack in the Box. Next to the Rental place..

 

[Lazer2KGT]

Dude its cake, dumps some heat into the tank, retard the timing, change the oil and she should pass.

A car that fails runs like crap, U will probably fail the gas cap test tho............

The guy with a 78 F250 460....................

Yeah I've heard of the heat trick and the gas cap test is joke from what I've heard. I could always get my 72 F-250 with a 390, headers and Carter AFB to pass no problem. But the 460 has a set of Stan's Headers tri-y's no air pumps (used to have 2) non EGR performer and the stock holley. Not sure how much has changed for the amount that is acceptable. The truck runs great, I may put a Carter 625 I rebuilt on it so it will be easier to make adjustments to the carb.
Scott

 

[Lazer2KGT]

Wow, that is a definite change in policy then. Well, party can't last forever!!

As for Dyno tuning, there is a place in Fed Way that has a dyno, not sure of they do EFI or just Carb stuff.. They are off of 348th and enchanted parkway. Sort of accrost the street from the Denny's and Jack in the Box. Next to the Rental place..

Thats Performance Prep, they only can dyno tune carbed cars and use it for troubleshooting on EFI. As for the address I could tell them I havent updated my drivers Licesense yet . My ex or soon to be x-wife lives in Enumclaw, no test out there. Thanks
Scott

 

[gospeedgo]

With the chip bank 1 rear reads 0 volts and no swithching (stays 0V), bank 2 rear switches at almost the same rate as the front (gets voltage readings), thus the fault. No chip both bank 1 & 2 rear get voltage readings like the front and get both faults.

Yea...it has to be the chip then. The only thing I can say at this point is look at mil eliminators, they should do the trick, they should provide steady low voltage to the pcm to make it think it really is working. Too bad that if the chip is supposed to do this that it doesnt. Both banks need to be a pretty flat line to get it to pass the cat efficiency test.

 

[stock50LX]

They are not really interested in nabbing people like us. King county is angry that so many residents claim to live elsewhere in order to aviod the higher road taxes. The tax revenues are not going to the local govt. which wants to build the Light Rail. We enthusiasts are caught in the same net, though.

Can you still use an address that is not on your license?? I am betting that I can still configure my cars to pass. But I would prefer to avoid the hassle.

On my wife's late model GT, they just read the codes. That's all.

 

[89MustangGX]

I'm interested in what the exact wording is on the form -- maybe you could get a 2nd PO Box???

 

[Turbo92PGT]

I'm curious about this as well, I probably dont have to get emissions done till next year, but still. You say you live in sumner? I was just down there about 20 minutes ago mowing the lawn for my grandparents. Pretty nice place. I've got an offroad pipe and want to know whats up with it for emissions. Its not TOO hard to swap the stock exhaust back on, but what about when I get long tubes and whatnot? Gonna have to get some cats welded into the short H/X pipe.

Whoever said they have "stans headers" Are you talking about the stans headers thats on auburn way in auburn? My friend got some headers welded up there for his car too.

 

[Lazer2KGT]

Stock50LX,
YOU ARE CORRECT. But where I live I dont pay that tax (RTA I believe they call it) so yes we get caught up in it. As for the address, I'm thinking since the car is registered at a PO box, that set's a flag?? I to believe I can get my cars to pass, but I also would like to avoid the hasle. I dont put much miles on the cars I'm concerned about. Here's what I may try, my F-250 tabs will be up in November, I'll try to address it at a friends in Eatonville or my ex's in Enumclaw and see what happens.

89MustangGX,
Basically the form want's your residence address, where you live. They said in 6 month I could add a PO box but the car would still be registered to my residence. In other words they may mail your tab notices and such to the PO box but the car is registered to your residence.

Turbo92PGT,
stock50LX said his wife's late model they just scanned the codes so you may be OK. As for Stans Headers I have them on my truck and a custom manderal catback he made on my 2K and 67 GT's. He does awsome work but it costs you. I'll be getting a mandral 3" exhaust on the F-250 4X4 soon.
Scott

 

[stock50LX]

Stock50LX,
YOU ARE CORRECT. But where I live I dont pay that tax (RTA I believe they call it) so yes we get caught up in it. As for the address, I'm thinking since the car is registered at a PO box, that set's a flag?? I to believe I can get my cars to pass, but I also would like to avoid the hasle. I dont put much miles on the cars I'm concerned about. Here's what I may try, my F-250 tabs will be up in November, I'll try to address it at a friends in Eatonville or my ex's in Enumclaw and see what happens.

I have been doing something like that. I have the tab notice sent to an Enumclaw address -a brother in law's old business, even though my address is on the title. I never get the tab notice, I just go to the license office and pickup the tabs based on their computer records, it's worked so far. We'll see, my tabs are up this month.