Not your average Subframe Connector Question

[01Steeda]

I will have to get some pictures of the one's I had made for my car. they are twice the thickness of MM and longer. I think you would be served well to have them custom made as long as he is using good material. Yes you can use them for jacking rails.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

Nothing wrong with home made SFC. I made the set on my old 5.0L and they were as good as any $150 set manufactured by any company that I'd ever seen. One thing I would find out though, is if they're made with cross braces. Cross bracing the sub frame connector greatly adds to their strength by attaching them at the seat bolts to the floor pan. You could have the most expensive, highest strength material frame connectors in the world, but if they're not cross braced, the body is as susceptible to flex as any other.

These are a set of standard frame connectors with the option of weld in cross braces

 

[01Steeda]

just a side note, it is funny to hear people talk about MM and Steeda and so on like there can be no other. do you really think a prefabbed SFC can be that much better than one made to fit???

 

[san~man]

just a side note, it is funny to hear people talk about MM and Steeda and so on like there can be no other. do you really think a prefabbed SFC can be that much better than one made to fit???

Yes.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

It is just that Maximum Motorsports is such a good company and their products are so well engineered that using them is almost zero risk. The shop in question in the thread is an unknown quantity and therefore a significantly greater risk than MM. If it was my money I would mitigate any risk by simply going with MM

 

[twogts4us]

I will have to get some pictures of the one's I had made for my car. they are twice the thickness of MM and longer. I think you would be served well to have them custom made as long as he is using good material. Yes you can use them for jacking rails.

Yes please share the tube structure and dimensions...and I'd really like to understand how they are longer...mine run completely from front to back - any longer and they'd have nothing else to attach to...?

 

[steveb24]

I weld on speedboats in my free time for Donzi. I am certified in TIG, MIG, ARC, and Submerged ARC welding. The engine braces I put together hold down engines making about 1500HP each, that run at 6,500rpm for hours on end at WOT. So I have some experience. A self taught back yard welder with a sears flux welder can't do it in 30min. It would take about an hour using a 115amp welder.

However, a good shop will have AT LEAST a 300 amp MIG setup that, on a bad day, can lay a bead FULL LENGTH of both braces in 30 minutes. Your 8 tabs have under 5 feet of total weld. Thats a minute for every inch. Even a first timer should weld faster than that.
So again, Sub frame connectors can be done by a good welder (with a good welder) in under 30 min.

thats a hell of a resume in the welding field you got there. idk whats the deal tho, the shop that did mine didnt "slack" and the entire job took em just over 2 hours. incl. painting, preping, welding, and than touching up the welds. on another note tho, he did do it on his back cause his lift was a body lift..not drive on. that must of required some more time as well

 

[HoustonGT]

Those of you with SFC's, do they make any difference off the line, or just for handling and making the car feel more solid?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

he did do it on his back cause his lift was a body lift..not drive on. that must of required some more time as well

You do realize you stiffened and braced the chassis while it was RACKED right? Holy f'ked up installs batman... This is why I will never buy anything but a bone stock Mustang...

 

[san~man]

thats a hell of a resume in the welding field you got there. idk whats the deal tho, the shop that did mine didnt "slack" and the entire job took em just over 2 hours. incl. painting, preping, welding, and than touching up the welds. on another note tho, he did do it on his back cause his lift was a body lift..not drive on. that must of required some more time as well

 

[HoustonGT]

You do realize you stiffened and braced the chassis while it was RACKED right? Holy f'ked up installs batman... This is why I will never buy anything but a bone stock Mustang...

Killy, i think he meant the guy didn't use the body lift and instead had to lay on his back, hence why it took longer.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Oh, I guess I have had one or two too many Coronas...

 

[01Steeda]

Yes please share the tube structure and dimensions...and I'd really like to understand how they are longer...mine run completely from front to back - any longer and they'd have nothing else to attach to...?

they may not be longer than yours, but the few set's of prefabbed SFC's I have seen do not cover the full frame rail.

 

[bullitt 5561]

thats more like it :SNSign: thanks for the advice.

 

[steveb24]

Killy, i think he meant the guy didn't use the body lift and instead had to lay on his back, hence why it took longer.

calm down kilgore.. calm down. he put it on ramps and did it if that makes you feel better. cmon.. dont u think i read this stuff on here and learn.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

 

[FalconGuy016]

I'm a poor guy. But I like to think if I'm going to mod my car, I'll spend a little extra on assurance, even if I have to wait, especially in the low hundreds of dollars range. MM is a tried and true design. You don't know about the shop. If it was literally nothing more than two square pieces of slightly bent metal then I would do it, but it is a little more than that. It very well could be good stuff, but you would never really know most likely.

BTW, are you talking about Excessive?

 

[bullitt 5561]

I'm a poor guy. But I like to think if I'm going to mod my car, I'll spend a little extra on assurance, even if I have to wait, especially in the low hundreds of dollars range. MM is a tried and true design. You don't know about the shop. If it was literally nothing more than two square pieces of slightly bent metal then I would do it, but it is a little more than that. It very well could be good stuff, but you would never really know most likely.

BTW, are you talking about Excessive?

yes, Excessive. They have a great rep around here so I think they will do a good job. Do you have any experience with them?