Off topic, Yamaha sport bikes

Ok guys, im looking to get a bike prob in the next couple months or def in the fall. Im totally new to them and dont no too much but ive been trying to do all the research i can, im looking to spend prob between 2500-4500$ because its gonna be my first bike and i cant afford getting a brand new one right now.

http://boston.craigslist.org/mcy/145476972.html

^ what do you guys think of that one? I no its not an R6 which is really what i want but what do you guys think i should be looking for?

THanks:SNSign:

~mike
 
I wouldn't get that one. I think it is a little overpriced for a 10k mile bike that has been put down. You can do better. I would also look for an R6. They seem to be better bikes all around then the YZF.
 
If this is your first bike ever, i would go with something a little more tame.

How bout a suzuki SV-650S?

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The bike don't look bad at all. As far as the scrapes go, he says they're minor. Which means that the bike more than likely didn't go down while riding. Probably just tipped over while moving it. And $34XX isn't too bad of a price. I haven't looked it up but would say you could resale it in 2 years and get that same price out of it. That bike is also not to fast or mean for a beginner. If you get a tamer bike you will more than likely not like it once you get used to it. The Yamaha 600 would be a good bike to learn on. You could also look into the Kawasaki ZX6's or the Honda CBR600's, their also nice beginner bikes. If you looking to have a nice fast all around perf. bike I would go with one of these. Just my 2 cents. Good luck and be safe.
Brandon
 
I checked on insurance for a 250 ninja, i am 20 and have a perfect driving record it is $2300 a year. Y is that so high? is through geico so i dont who else could be cheaper.
 
First of all, schedule a MSF course. They are free, you get your license as soon as you pass, you may be able to get a discount on insurance, and oh yeah, they teach you the basics of riding a motorcycle. They are good at what they do. They taught my 62 year old grandma how to ride a motorcycle. Definetly worth your time!!

As for a bike, you can learn on any bike. I have seen people start out on liter bikes. Yes, you can do it, but is it safe? Not for a beginner. Even with an R6. You have about 110hp on a bike that weighs less than 400 lbs. A lot of people underestimate the power of 600cc bikes because they aren't 1000s. Most people don't even need 1000s. I would not recommend an R6 as a first bike especially since you don't know how to ride at all. Yes, you control all of the power with you wrist, but one slip-up and you will be laying on your back and your bike will be sliding across the concrete.

I recommend you learn on a small bike and when you feel comfortable on that, then step up. The YZF600 would be a much better fit for you right now. Just don't underestimate the power of these bikes. We don't wanna lose a Stang guy. Good luck with your decision and ride safe.
 
you can ride any bike you want. what you have to LEARN is how to control the power you're sitting on. MSF is the best thing you can do before sitting on any motorcycle. after passing the course, get some seat time on a dirt bike in some trails. dodging trees and bushes are alot easier than dodging big rigs and idiot drivers who don't know how to check their mirrors. trail riding will get you used to the body language you need to maneuver your bike in tight spots and saving your ass in sticky situations, like avoiding those idiot drivers.

IMHO, Yamaha's (great bikes BTW) are one of the most twitchy bikes on the market. when you dip them into a corner, you dip FAST! again, this is where seat time and experience come into play. it's all in what you think your limits are and whether or not you want to push yourself over that limit.
 
I'll go against the grain of many here, and agree with Mike. I learned on a 750 and it would have been a lot easier on a smaller bike (something like an EX 500 or the previously mentioned 250). You know you're just gonna have it just to learn on, and sell it to another learner [or midget, errrrr I mean altitudinally challenged person], so it's no biggie. Unless you wreck, you will recoupe your investment. But it's lighter, lower and easier to maneuver. And if you hamfist it by accident, it wont get out of control as fast. All of us that ride/rode have screwed-up stories about new riders and powerful bikes (which any modern day 600 is - they put out the power [and more] that liter bikes from 15 years ago did, with less weight to boot!)

Then when you know what you like, you can get the best-suited 600 for you, and it wont have any initial 'bruises' from learning.

I know it's hard to set ego aside (and get a smaller bike) but it's the smart thing to do IMHO.

I strongly recommend the MSF course too (AFAIK, it's not free though).
Just MHO.
 
snoboardcore said:
just get a 600 hundred to learn on there a good bike for a begginer plus you can still ride it more aggresively as you get better.
If your gonna get a bike spend the money once and get the bigger one... As long as your safe and careful youll learn to respect the power more. Why get a 600 this year and the next year trade it in for a 1000 when you can just buy the bigger bike first..
 
RsStanG1987 said:
If your gonna get a bike spend the money once and get the bigger one... As long as your safe and careful youll learn to respect the power more. Why get a 600 this year and the next year trade it in for a 1000 when you can just buy the bigger bike first..


Because newbie rider on a 1-liter superbike = increased potential for disaster.

I don't have any doubts that some riders can pull it off, but every summer i know at least 2 or 3 people who buy 750's or 1000's as their first bike and end up getting into a serious accident with them.

Then again these are the same people that ride in tank tops and shorts on top of a liter bike simply because they think they look cool. They call them squids because...well throw a squid on the ground and it goes splat. Same thing.

I still stand buy my initial recommendation of a SV-650S over a 600 superbike. The SV looks like a sport bike but's it's considered a standard so insurance would be cheaper. Also, the V-twin has a lot of torque and isn't as twitchy as a sport bike so it's more forgiving to ride. The image that a "beginner" bike isn't fun to ride once you master it isn't true with this bike. It will run a 12second ET and hang with superbikes in the turns. I know a few guys who race SV's on the track and are very competitive. There was even a thread over on a Hayabusa board i was reading where a really good SV-rider totally handed him him his ass through some turns. Ask around on sport bike boards and the SV will be recommended by them as well.

I've ridden a few different bikes. I'm not a beginner, but i felt more comfortable on the SV than i did my friend's GSXR-600. The SV you could acually ride while the gixxer actually made me afraid to open it up.

Even the SV-1000S is an attractive bike if you need even more power after that.
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An SV board
http://forum.svrider.com/
 
i have a gsx-r 750 and it is no begginer bike you can throw it up just by getting on it a 600 wont do that unless you clutch it up. And a 1000 would just be plain rediculous for a starter bike. Say u accidently twist the throttle to hard your going over backwards if your not ready for it.
 
snoboardcore said:
i have a gsx-r 750 and it is no begginer bike you can throw it up just by getting on it a 600 wont do that unless you clutch it up. And a 1000 would just be plain rediculous for a starter bike. Say u accidently twist the throttle to hard your going over backwards if your not ready for it.
Actually an R6 will stand up when you just get on it. I have seen my cousin do it numerous times.

Let me say this. NO ONE NEEDS A LITER BIKE. What is the purpose of having 1000ccs over 600 or even 750ccs.? When a motorcycle can easily go 140 in third gear you don't need more than that. That is just plain rediculous. I almost had my cousins R6 but when he test drove an R1 he decided to keep his because he was almost affraid of the R1. My dad has a 78' KZ1000 with a lot of money into the engine. My cousin's R6 will leave it behind no problem.
 
Like i said i stand by my opinion as long as you learn to respect its power from the start you shouldnt have a problem. My friends first bike he got last year is a zx10r and he has never ridden a bike before and he is doing just fine on it... A GXR 600 will pick the front end up just like any other sport bike carefullness is where its at... Im probabbly getting the sv1000s thats the bike i wanted since last year but they were on back order..